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    I had a similar experience: Android to iPhone, recently used a new Android and was pleasantly surprised. Even the low end Androids work way better than flagship phones from 2015 when I switched. But there’s a killer app in the Apple ecosystem for me: applications. Mail, Photos, Music, Notes, Calendar, Contacts, Files: all apps on iOS and applications on MacOS.

    Google’s SPAs don’t cut if for me. I don’t necessarily use offline access, but I need to open an application without enormous first load times and more load times after backgrounding for a few minutes. Apple Photos in particular demolishes the Google Photos experience purely by having the photos stored locally, especially if I’m away from my gigabit home internet.

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      Yeah, the Apple built in apps are just so good. The notes app alone is such an amazing information capture system. It just sucks that it’s such a pain to develop for it unless you pay. Also apparently my Flutter development efforts are futile on iOS because I use an M1 macbook and cocoapods apparently doesn’t work on M1.

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        I switched off iOS a long time ago, so I may not be up to date on the Notes app — when I last used it, it was fairly bare-bones. What makes it better than say, Google Keep?

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          They’ve added a lot to it in the meantime, it’s basically a full OneNote competitor now. I have several years of daily notes in it. The real killer feature is how it integrates into iMessage and the like so you can share notes with people.

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            And even more improvements are coming this fall in iOS/iPadOS 15 and Monterey - hashtags for note tagging support, ability to tag/mention people in notes and the new omnipresent quick note interface, all of those are amazing additions that are well worth the upgrade. Can’t wait for the stable versions to ship in September.

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              Can you read/edit those notes via a non-macOS computer? I noticed that if I can only use it on the phone it’s 100% useless to me.

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                You can use iCloud web yeah, but it’s kinda crap. I only really use the web version to read things.

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          Apple Photos in particular demolishes the Google Photos experience purely by having the photos stored locally, especially if I’m away from my gigabit home internet.

          If you use iCloud, Photos on iOS will offload older pictures to it and fetch them only when needed. That’s a killer feature too imho has you never need to care if this is local or not, or to manage your space.

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            I too moved from Android to iPhone. But google photos is one of the apps I kept. A lot of fun features in it, and I can share photos with friends and family regardless of their platform.

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              The killer feature of Google Photos for me is the expansive timeline stretching back multiple devices. First load isn’t a major concern for me because I’m just going to use the scroll bar to scrub back to 2011, anyway.

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              Definitely take a look at the Fairphone 3 combined with LineageOS (de-googled Android) and F-Droid (100% OSS-“store”). This is an extremely good combination, and the FP3 is very easy to repair in all aspects (removable battery, everything inside is modular and accessible with a simple screwdriver).

              Apple is moving in a predictable but worrying direction. Its products have become disposable lifestyle-gadgets that you can’t repair yourself meaningfully. In a way, the company has become an enemy of its users, especially the power-users.

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                I daily-carry both an iPhone 12 mini and a OnePlus 8 Pro.

                The iPhone:

                • fits in my (tiny) womens’ clothes pockets, whereas the big Pro Android phone goes in a bag,
                • works fantastically with my AirPods,
                • could support an Apple Watch if I decide to buy one - It seems like a major convenience boost!
                • lets me use iMessage (although, living in Europe, I haven’t, yet.),
                • can run GarageBand for noting down rough-and-fleeting musical inspiration

                The Android phone:

                • has important things on it that I need to access when I’m out-and-about (2FA codes, mostly)
                • takes nice photos from the selfie camera,
                • can run Syncthing, and has a real filesystem.
                • can run Conversations, but iOS doesn’t have any XMPP client that comes close,
                • has actual web browser choice: Firefox is actually Firefox, and I can block ads.
                • lets me develop custom software to automate daily stuff, really easily.

                I wouldn’t say two phones provides two times the utility, but it really comes in handy to get around the tradeoffs & exclusivity sometimes.

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                  I’ve switched from iOS to Android and back several times. These days I am an iOS user for a couple of reasons: first, you can only really count on getting fast Android updates on Google phones, and the 3-year-ish support cycle for Pixels is stupidly short.

                  Second, my fiance is all in on Apple and it’s less friction if we’re on the same platform. Unless Apple goes completely off the rails there’s little to no chance that she’s going to switch, so it’s iOS for me in the absence of a really compelling reason to go Android again.

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                    If you’re considering switching to Android to try it out, I’d highly recommend the Pixel line of phones — if you want a second or “burner” phone, or one for dev testing before commiting to the ecosystem, the cheaper “A” line of Pixels are great ($350 unlocked, or potentially free if you get it from a carrier with a contract). Great camera quality, they get OS updates as soon as they come out, and Google does a good job of detecting spam calls and not even ringing your phone when it’s a spammer. When they’re not sure, you have the option to let Google Assistant pick up and real-time transcribe the conversation for you, and you can hop in and take over the call if it’s someone real.

                    As an Android user the main thing I wish I could use from the Apple ecosystem is the watch. But there are decent smartwatch options out there if you’re not committed to square-screen-on-your-wrist — I wear a Garmin smartwatch that most people mistake for a non-smartwatch, and get notifications on my wrist and some health tracking.

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                      I had used Android from 2010 to 2019 (usually with modified firmware) when I finally had enough of Google’s perception of what good usability is. I’m happy with the iPhone since then, haven’t looked back yet (and probably never will).