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    Tag proposal: email meta

We had a lot of e-mail related submissions recently, and they were mostly tagged with “programming”, sometimes with “devops”, and sometimes with something like “api”:

Searching for “email” reveals 5736 results on the lobste.rs search. Also, there is a “web” tag for WWW-technology content. For symmetry, there should be an “email” tag.

Thus, I propose to add an “email” tag to lobste.rs.

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      Thus, I propose to add an “email” tag to lobste.rs.


      I think there is a clear interest and demand, as you have shown. Email, as a topic, has both sufficient depth to allow a tag (message delivery, mail storage, spam, client & server software, protocols & standards), and is categorically consistent with the existing tags–which don’t otherwise reasonably cover the same domain. It is such a part of the Internet’s history that it has a distinct record type (MX) in DNS. The topic attracts hobbyists that are experimenting through to companies that focus (in some cases exclusively) on email services.

      I’d like this tag added to Lobsters.

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      I’d like a tag that covers the internet minus the web - email, NNTP, gopher, IRC…

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        So, https://lobste.rs/t/networking?

        (Although that tag could definitely use a more useful description, it’s listed as “networking - Networking” right now.)

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          networking feels best suited to the protocol layer 3, such as IPv4, IPv6, or IPsec, and their management through routing, firewalling, etc.

          But that is like my opinion. I still add networking tag for email protocols from time to time.

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        This. If email is a tag, why not ssh? If ssh is a tag, why not telnet? If telnet is a tag… and so on.

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          It’s because tags are not a complete, idealized series of protocols or other topics. Rather they are metadata under the site’s computing-focused theme. They’re created by “submitting, discussing, and voting on meta-tagged requests about them,” for which each tag has to make it’s own case for inclusion. The resulting ontology is fit for the purpose of discussion on this site and is not trying to be anything more than that.

          Tags are used to organize and filter topics, with this community more interested in some protocols, tags, topics, or subjects than others.

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          HTTP is not a tag. SMTP / IMAP / MIME / POP / DKIM / SPF / Sieve are not tags.

          Web is a topic. Web is a tag. Email is a topic. Can email be a tag?

          That OTOH, I would welcome a protocol for discussing about a particular/alternative email protocol.

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          Because the tag system is not meant to form a complete taxonomy for all submissions but to serve the purpose of allowing users of the website to focus on topics or ignore them.

          Think of it like the ideas behind a Huffman code but for focusing/ignoring stories. When there are many stories that share some common element, you can focus/ignore by using a short tag. When there are few, you just focus/ignore by handling the individual stories.

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          Do the work to show there is the demand for those tags (as had been done here, for this proposal) then maybe people would support their addition too.

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      Added. The description is just “e-mail” for us oldsters, but if someone thinks of a better one, please suggest it.

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      I would enjoy being able to filter this tag. I support addition.

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      Most of people there want additional tags to add them to blacklist.

      And this is quite worrying - that’s not why tags should exist, they’re to indicate and sometimes promote the certain category of posts, but not to forward them to /dev/null - that’s more how Linux Netfilter works, by the way ;)

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        I don’t want to blacklist email, to the contrary. I’d enjoy following exactly this tag instead of a plethora of different tags that don’t quite capture the topic, but are only tangentially related.

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        Why do you think people should not be able to filter out topics they find uninteresting? I could quite do without anything tagged “culture,” for example, because I’m here entirely for the technical articles and discussion.

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        that’s not why tags should exist

        But Lobsters explicitly has blacklisting as a functionality, no? That would seem to indicate that it’s a valid use case.