Host here. This is Ron’s classic story of refusing to let a cancelled project die. They snuck onto Apple Campus, squatted in offices, and worked tirelessly to complete their graphing calculator project. The result: It ended up on millions of devices!

Oh, and did I mention the secret Apple tablet, and the golden masters, and the fire?

Here is one of my favorite Ron quotes:

Ron: Frequently people would come up to me and ask me, “Do you work here?”

And I’d just tell them no.

And they’d say, “Oh, that means you’re a contractor.”

And I’d say, “Actually, no.”

Then they’d say, “But then who’s paying you?”

And I’d tell them no one.

Then they’d ask, “How do you live?”

I’d say, “I live simply.”

And then they’d ask me, “What are you doing here?” And I’d give them a demo.

Graphing Calculator taught my kid so much about math. She used to play with it for hours.

Great episode! I was really nervous while listening, I was so afraid when he was caught. Such tension.