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    I’ve had Windows Update make me lose unsaved work.

    This isn’t just “annoying”, it’s completely unacceptable. As a university student my “active hours” are highly variable, and an unexpected reboot could mean throwing away half a paper or corrupting a running VM. Either way, I’d have to spend that much time setting up my workspace again.

    I’ve had it sitting there pending while waiting to rush out the door.

    This could mean losing hours of work and damaging my grade because Windows wouldn’t let me print or upload an assignment for the deadline.

    This guide has allowed me to leave Windows Update enabled with its auto-reboot functionality disabled, so I can choose to reboot when I know I have the time. I think this is the way it should work.

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      There’s a joke that’s probably older than you are, but it contains a useful lesson.


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        Ha. I do compulsively mash Ctrl+S or :w whenever I’m working on something, but still, the OS unilaterally deciding to toss my state just shouldn’t be a thing. And “saved” doesn’t always mean “safe”, for example, if VMware is in the middle of background writes to a virtual disk image. Random reboots put long-running tasks at risk, too, like running a test suite or neural network training overnight.

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        No offense but what is keeping you on Windows?

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          Adobe haven’t released InDesign for OpenBSD yet.

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            But they have released it for macOS.

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              Yes. MacOS X is a nice middle ground for people who want commercial support and want a UNIX shell underneath (I know about the new Bash thing - it’s got a long way to go :)

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            Compatibility with third-party software. I do most of my development in a Linux VM, but some things just require Windows unfortunately.

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              Not the OP, but I’m stuck with having Windows around for

              • Cypress PSoC Creator
              • Atmel AVR Studio
              • the occasional need for Visual Studio
              • video games, especially the stability and performance of Nvidia on Windows relative to Linux
              • Microsoft Office

              And this list is by no means comprehensive, it’s just what comes to mind right now. I’ll also mention that I regularly use machines with Linux and MacOS, and often run VMs on each of them as I find it convenient to do work on one machine versus the others. I had completely cut everything but Linux out of my life for a couple years, but since then I’ve found that using all the systems insulates me from the annoyances of any single OS.

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                Steam and games. Visual Studio is good too, but I could live without it.

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                There’s an even worse version: you’re about to take a plane, so you turn off your computer and suddenly “installing update 1 of 2435, please do not turn off your computer”. But then you say I deserved this for using Windows.

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                  Fun story about ‘active hours’. It claims to not restart if you are using system at the time. Guess if copy process (5tb of backups to new hdd) counts as ‘using system’… Last time I have ‘checked’ it did not.

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                    Download but do not install and when done, confirm their installation. You are obviously a power user who knows that updates are good and you are definitely not scared of clicking the Install button like 80% of common users.

                    For those, do not care. They won’t be running VMs and it teaches them to save their work.

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                    I have a Windows machine that I mostly access remotely. I turned off automatic updates after one too many times that I couldn’t connect to it because it had restarted itself and it needs a bitlocker password to turn back on. I could turn off bitlocker and be permanently unprotected for if my computer gets stolen as opposed to turning off updates and only being unprotected during the window between a vulnerability dropping and when I remember to install updates.

                    I have lost work and productivity because of auto updates being on, I (personally) haven’t lost work and productivity to an 0ldday vulnerability from having them turned off. If/when that happens I might re-evaluate. But until then, I have auto updates turned off because Microsoft made me do it.

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                      Instead, just tell them to turn off Windows Entirely.