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Sometimes someone posts as paper or maybe a very long blog post or a link to a book and unless I’ve read it before it could take me a month or so to read, evaluate, and form a comment (hopefully) worth reading. Given how this website works, in a month I might as well not comment because nobody will notice and I won’t spark any kind of discussion.

Does anyone have any thoughts on ways to possibly handle this? All the ideas I have are various ways to allow reposting, more or less.

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    In grad school we had a reading club that announced papers a week before we discussed them. I don’t see why we couldn’t do the same on Lobste.rs.

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      Lobste.rs reading club would be fantastic! I wonder how such a feature would work.

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        I like this idea too - and this could just be as simple as a weekly post that announces next week’s paper and discusses this week’s paper. Were you thinking it’d need more features than that?

        Although it’d be great if there was a way to integrate the annotation style of http://fermatslibrary.com/

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      Would there be value in a concept of a “reply” tag that was specifically suited for this use-case? A text-only post that can’t have a new link - instead the link would be the old URL. The URL that you are replying too. I’d expect that there would be a minimum amount of time before posts could be tagged as replies. My thought is that these sort of comments would basically be elevated top-level comments. (In fact, they could be shown as comments and the comments within as sub-comments if anyone went to the original submission URL.)

      The goal is to support both this long thought out method both with regular visitors to the site, but also how I consume Lobsters: almost entirely through my RSS reader. If I think I have something useful to contribute, I’ll click on the comments link and post here, but most of the time I’m fairly passive, simply reading and occasionally upvoting. I think this could also work for the mailing list style of interaction too.

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        im probably in the minority here, but I regularly check the all comments link. much faster than trying to scan the front page and discern which thread counts have changed, and additionally helpful for spotting otherwise unnoticed comments.

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          Surely you don’t go 1 month, or more, back in this scan?

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            If the comment is new, it’s at the top of the page, regardless of how old the story is.

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            I do this as well. The comments are like half the value of lobste.rs for me, so I appreciate being able to follow them.

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              Interesting, I am going to give it a try.

              I am curious to know the comment rate. ~15-20 comments per hour (based on the last 3 hours), not so high for the previous hours.

              Is lobste.rs site/traffic data accessible to users? I bet we could come up with a few interesting ways to curate our information based on some trends. And a few memes of course.

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                It’s usually fairly slow unless there’s a hot thread going. So Monday with the working on thread is usually much higher traffic than otherwise.

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              Write a blog post and submit that?

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                That is an option. Or doing a direct content submission here. The major downside to that, IMO, is you lose continuity with the original story and seeing a complete discussion can be a challenge, whereas if it when back into the original story it’s all in one place.

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                In these cases, it is often a niche thing, where the author has had few if any comments at all giving feedback.

                I have found that contacting the author directly has led to a rich and rewarding discussion.

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                  This doesn’t really address your question but there was a nice read about this stuff, using log of votes and time and how it distorts fast votes versus more complicated and difficult to digest posts.

                  https://lobste.rs/s/76wqia/how_reddit_ranking_algorithms_work

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                    You could add a long tag and then adjust the “bumpyness” of comments posted after x days, that is, make such comments bump the post up to the front-page. Additionally, make the long tag equal with tags like video or especially pdf.

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                      Perhaps once a post is >1 week old anyone who comments on it gets shown a ‘bump’ link (next to suggest, flag, hide) that knocks it up to somewhere on the front page.

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                        I kinda like this idea of “bumping”, it could also solve the problem of reposts as well: if I find that a webpage I like was already submitted a year ago, instead of re-submitting it, I just click “bump”.

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                        A solution to this would be to be able to subscribe to people, and see a stream of events about what they’re doing. This could be their comments, but also stuff they upvote or downvote.

                        You’d at least then get to see posts and conversations on old stuff that anyone you follow was interacting with.

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                          Right now Lobsters is very similar to HNews. You could add a community section which behaves more like a timeline. That would give active discussion a way to get back on top. Also check out: https://getstream.io/blog/13-tips-for-a-highly-engaging-news-feed/ and https://getstream.io/based-feed-ui-kit-sketch/