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    Not sure how it is today, but South Korea ~10y ago was famous for (alleged) “you can’t even use government/any official/bank website without a really old IE with ActiveX”, wonder if these things have vanished by now.

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      Imagine if all governments created funds to sponsor open source work. This could lead to a whole new market.

      Europe has started to do that with the NGI Zero project which sponsors cool projects like WireGuard. I don’t know of other initiatives.

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        I imagine this will end like every other time a government or local council does it: Baby duck syndrome will kill the project and everything will be back on Windows in 2/3 years.

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          They will most likely be back to Windows because there’s probably a thousand or so systems that were only designed to function on Windows, and an old version at that. Linux itself might not be a problem (it probably will be since it’s quite frankly not on par with Windows’ user experience), but imagine all the tasks you can’t complete anymore since you didn’t plan for updating all those legacy systems. On top of that, think of how crap the IT skills of most support personell. Now imagine them having to support Linux instead…

          Of course these kinds of projects are doomed to fail. Just look at their starting point:

          “We will resolve our dependency on a single company while reducing the budget by introducing an open-source operating system.” …said Choi Jang-hyuk, South Korea’s head of Ministry of Strategy and Finance,

          Although most Linux distros are free, South Korean officials estimate that migrating their current fleet of approximately 3.3 million PCs from Windows 7 to Linux will cost about 780 billion won (approximately $655 million). The price tag will cover the implementation, transition, and purchase of new PCs.

          They are practically speaking planning to fail here. They need to stand up an entirely new server infrastructure, replace (or code new versions of) all their domain apps (I’m thinking government functions here, like planning department mapping systems, archival systems, regulatory process systems, etc.), change out every single workstation, train the system administrators and support personell in managing Linux, and on top of that, handle the expected drop of productivity in the transitional period as none of the users actually know how to do their job in ANY of the new systems.

          This project is doomed to fail, not because of the baby duck syndrome, but because $665 million is a rounding error compared to what you need to do all of the planned changes. There’s just not a snowballs chance in hell that they have planned adequately for this.

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            (it probably will be since it’s quite frankly not on par with Windows’ user experience)

            That’s not been my experience, at all. I’ll grant you baby duck syndrome, but I’ve had four family members running on Linux for years now with no issues. My MIL has used both Linux and Windows, and was about equally stuck trying to administer either of them.

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              I’ve had four family members running on Linux for years now with no issues

              That’s great, but we’re not talking about using Facebook, watching videos on YouTube or reading the odd email in Gmail. We’re talking about actual work in productivity software and domain applications. I know I tried changing to Linux a few times and I always found things that didn’t work out for the tasks I wanted to do. Sure, there’s some programs that would fulfil almost the same purpose, but that’s just not good enough when you need it to fill all of the uses of the other platform. A government can’t just stop handling taxation, immigration, zoning, healthcare, or any other function because they are switching to Linux. They need all of those functions working more or less the exact same as previously. The software can change, of course, but these people are migrating from Windows 7. I think it’s highly likely they still have Win 2K boxes handling some important function that they haven’t swapped out yet and they are not likely to replace either because the software doesn’t exist.

              My MIL has used both Linux and Windows, and was about equally stuck trying to administer either of them.

              I hope your MIL is not a system administrator for anything else than her own machine, and I hope the people who are going to manage this system actually gets training in it as it’s pretty different to work with Windows and Linux when you are managing it.

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                My MIL has used…

                I know I tried changing…

                I think both of you are speaking on personal experience here :) None of us know what a typical workflow for a typical clerk in the “Ministry of Public Administration” looks like.

                As much as I would like them to succeed, I’m think that it might end up failing as Brekkjern has said. Munich’s attempt a while back teaches some nice lessons on that.

                From some of what the people around here have told me, a lot of it can be attributed to Microsoft pushing really hard to not make this happen - but there were also technical issues that can be attributed to the long history of developing for Windows specifically.

                Who knows? South Korea might be afraid of being too dependant on US (like we all are I guess), so they might have a political push to make this happen in any case. I don’t know what the stance in South Korea on these items is? I guess we’ll see.

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                  I think both of you are speaking on personal experience here :)

                  All of Brekkjern’s points are perfectly valid :) The point I was _trying _ (and failing, apparently) to make was just that the (typical distro) Linux user experience is at least on par with the Windows user experience, and is in many ways superior.

                  And also, both are equally difficult to administer. I recently had to debug a WiFi module driver issue w/ power management on my MIL’s new Windows laptop, and it was an awful experience.

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                    The point I was trying to make was that $200 per machine doesn’t really cover the expenses of getting a new machine, let alone swapping to a different OS and all the other issues that entails.

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              I’d never heard the term “baby duck syndrome” before, surprisingly, but after looking it up it makes a lot of sense. I’ve experienced & observed it myself numerous times but never had a good way to describe it succinctly! That’s also why I’ve been taking to wait until my kids are old enough to read before giving them computers (running Linux sans X11) so they develop some initial familiarity with the command line before using a GUI.