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    For John Carmack the programmer, I take my hat off. For John Carmack, the guy plugging kids of all ages into the Matrix, I put it back on.

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      is this an argument that the existence of VR technology itself is bad? That it’s unethical for a programmer or hardware engineer to work on it?

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        I feel a similar sentiment (hat on, hat off) not because of the VR tech itself - I heartily explore it myself, but for the active choice in enabling one of the shittiest information parasites tech has spawned to date, in getting a technical/patent stronghold; repeating the closed ecosystems of the smartphones and, soon enough, dominance in the field. Social VR is a prime source for subtle biometrics (gait analysis) that translates “nicely” to other privacy invasive tech - deanonymisation of surveillance footage etc, and that’s before we come to the stuff that will be necessary for the quality of experience to improve (eye trackers). This is not a field to scoff of with “I only care about the tech” kind of sentiment that Carmack continues to hide behind.

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          It is an argument that too many kids waste the prime of their lives shooting at electronic demons, while the demons in reality remain mostly unchecked.

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            Would also add that JC doesn’t need VR to jack kids into the matrix. He was doing that well enough with MS-DOS.

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          Immediately nuking my youtube history after watching this one, just to make sure I don’t get any crazy weird reactionary MGTOW recommendations. Such is the beast of The Algorithm.

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            always nuke your YT-history or, better even, use an external media player to play those YT-videos. Ignore any recommendations, whether they be for angry woke snowflakes or men going their own way or whatever. It is there where dragons be, in that column with content YT suggests you try next to make sure you stay just al little bit longer. It is like that game on the C64 in which a player was greeted with a digitised voice saying ‘another visitor… stay a while, stay forever (maniacal laughter)

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              I like my recommendations. they are basically all food.

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              I find a lot of value in the Joe Rogan podcast. Sure the political stuff is kinda hit or miss, but he’s a pretty good interviewer (doing over a thousand podcasts tends to do that) and he’s pretty knowledgeable when it comes to health/diet/exercise and the entertainment industry. This is one of my favorites.

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                I want to make clear: I’m watching because John Carmack is being interviewed. I really could care less about Rogan, whose entire gimmick to bring some random, strange person on his show, and go “Mmm. Ok. Yeah, for sure.” for an hour or two as his guest says crazy shit

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                  Like I said the political stuff is hit or miss.

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                    I know. I’m saying I don’t really care.

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                      I figured

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                  I’ve never watched/listened to anything he’s made - mostly because of the kind of people recommending his stuff tended to be people whose views I’m ideologically opposed to (mostly Bitcoiners). I did do a bit of reading about him yesterday and found this article which I feel sums him up quite well:

                  https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2019/08/my-joe-rogan-experience/594802/

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                    I’ve never watched/listened to anything he’s made

                    Why reply?

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                      Because he obviously has a huge impact on a large part of the (male) English-speaking population, as outlined in the article I linked, and I wanted to share my thoughts on this phenomenon. I mentioned the fact that I hadn’t listened to him as up-front information regarding my prior experience.

                      I’m sorry you don’t feel my comment is of value to you. I should have commented at the top level instead, I guess.

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                        How can you have thoughts on his podcast if you haven’t listened to it?

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                          I read an article that seemed to paint a more or less complete picture of Joe Rogan, glossed over his career, and described how it was to listen to his stuff. I don’t see why you personally have to experience something to have an opinion or thoughts about it. I mean, I have thoughts about heroin, but I’ve never tried it…

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                            I see where you’re coming from, but the heroin analogy is weird because you can still experience it without injecting into yourself (e.g. parents/classmates/neighbors were heroin addicts, etc). I think with podcasts/movies/music/videogames/books you have to consume a significant portion of it to have an opinion.

                            I would take you seriously even if you only listened to 30 min of JRE. But expressing an opinion without having watched a single minute of it is basically judging a book by its cover

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                              I got the same reaction when I said I hadn’t read anything by Jordan Peterson, weirdly enough.

                              But I might give it a shot.

                              Would you recommend this episode in particular, or are there better ones? I can’t stand Elon Musk btw

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                                I’m with you on Elon Musk, the interview he did on JRE was really bad, even Joe Rogan thought it was bad lol.

                                As far as recs go…

                                • Laird Hamilton - lots of good lifestyle / health / diet tips
                                • Gabrielle Reece - Laird’s wife. I liked his interview so much I watched this one too to get a better perspective
                                • John Carmack - brief-ish history of id / good insight into what John Carmack is really like
                                • Alex Jones - 5hr convo gives some deep insight into what Alex Jones is like, also pretty entertaining (fyi I don’t support Alex Jones, I don’t really take sides. I just wanna be aware of stuff)
                                • Firas Zahabi - health/lifestyle/exercise tips
                                • Dan Bilzerian - super rich dude who basically bangs hot girls all the time and does whatever he wants
                                • Naval Ravikant - cofounder of AngelList, some insights into the tech industry + life stuff. hes kinda neurotic and preachy but pretty good overall
                                • Michelle Waterson - MMA fighter. Good overview/info on MMA/UFC
                                • Anthony Jeselnik - no clue who he is, but I learned a lot about the entertainment industry with this one.

                                While going down the list I found one with Lex Fridman which I’m gonna listen to right now. He’s an AI podcast host who did a really good interview with George Hotz

                                Also this clip is hilarious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqZ1CgMOoNI

                                Anyway yeah. Take your pick. My top ones would probably be Laird Hamilton, John Carmack, Dan Bilzerian.

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                                  Thanks for taking the time to compile this, I appreciate it!

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                      My criticism of that article boils down to: it’s way too meandering.

                      Hearing someone talk to another person about subjects you don’t normally get to read, hear or think about can be super engaging. And it’s informal… it’s not information dense (most of the time), it’s not providing a manicured experience. It’s two or three people having a low-expectation conversation, sometimes on interesting topics.

                      IMO good background listening. Like talk radio without the time constraint, ads, and need for mostly vanilla content, or the production of NPR.

                      Everyone’s not gonna like it, or even be interested in trying it out. Totally fine!

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                  I don’t get the hype about Joe Rogan.

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                    It’s just a bunch of long interviews with names you have heard of probably, they get to talk for over an hour in a relaxed setting with no agenda being pushed down on them / no ‘forced sell’.

                    Rogan doesn’t really engage much or steer the conversation in the ones I have listened to, so it’s a bit like interviewing the person yourself, vicariously?