I’ve wanted something like this for so long. I hope this lives up to its promises!
So I’ve never gotten into the whole tablet thing; my phone does everything I would want a tablet for (gaming, movies, etc; for any serious work I need a laptop with a keyboard at minimum anyway, since “work” is “writing code”).
This is what I would use a tablet for: taking notes, reading technical documentation in PDF form, etc. The problem is the price. The 40% off price for preorders is nice, but even at $429, I just can’t justify it.
That’s just me though, and I’m known as the…frugal would be the nice word…person of my circle of family and friends.
I don’t think it’s just you. I love this idea in a lot of ways. It’s just that…look, I buy nice notebooks, okay? But this is still many years' worth at this price, and it’s not even guaranteed to ship; it could just be a $430 hole in the floor. And I might even be okay with those two things, except I can’t touch the damn thing, so I have no idea what the build quality or feel is—incredibly important details when we’re talking about something that’d replace my actual paper.
So, do I love this idea? Absolutely. Would I spend $430 on it? Probably not–but definitely not at the current stage of the game.
Completely agree. I read and annotate a lot of papers (which I currently print on real paper). This device looks ideal as a replacement, but it would need to be about a third the discount price for me to seriously consider buying one. Shame.
I was excited until I realized it is basically a self-hosted kickstarter. From terms and conditions (https://getremarkable.com/terms-and-conditions)
“The completion of our product development process and successful shipping of all pre-buy orders is depended on sufficient backing from our pre-order campaign and fundraising process. Hence, reMarkable cannot guarantee that the products will be delivered in all cases. ”
I have been burned by kickstarter / pre-orders enough to just wait till they have a product, but I sincerely hope it is awesome.
I wish more consumer products used epaper. Despite the monochrome display, the battery life can’t be ignored. Sunlight readability is also a huge plus.
I would be interested to see how consumers feel about that trade off overall. Personally, I would rather have a month of battery life and no glare than a color screen, but it seems like fewer consumer products are coming out with epaper displays.
Cool. I’d prefer a more laptop form factor with ePaper though.
Also, hardware, not compsci.
I agree, I want a laptop, or a least a display with e-ink.
Grmbl. It’s not an actual product yet.
The best actual product I have seen is the USD 1100 SONY’s DPTS1 on which I think GoodEreader.com’s own kick-started product is also based.
Have you seen Onyx BOOX Max?
One thing I’ve always loved about Sony e-ink products is that they are super easy to use with just about any OS, software, whathaveyou. There is no huge cloud connected account that only works with certain formats, it’s a microsd card you can copy PDFs to.
I’m very tempted by this posting, wish I could actually get my hands on it for a reasonable price.
It looks like the DPTS1 was discontinued in January :(
I’ve been a big fan of e-paper for years. I owned two of the old iRex iLiads a decade ago when they were first released in the US, and currently have a Kobo Mini.
I’ve been eyeing a larger-factor reader for PDFs – the Mini is great for reading fiction in various formats, but A4 and Letter PDFs just don’t scale well to that size. This might fit that bill (eventually, provided it ships).
At the same time, I write daily paper todo lists, and regularly take paper notes. It’s not something I ever really considered using e-paper for (well, not for years, anyway – the iLiad had a hand-annotation capability, but it was clunky, slow, and generally unusable). I’m not certain it makes financial sense yet, but I’d be willing to entertain going digital with my notes if this comes close to fulfilling its promises. Still, that’s a further goal than “just shipping”, which is still uncertain.
All that said, at this point my major requests would include: 1- opening the spec up (too many devices get abandoned, and being able to install custom firmware makes the investment much more enticing), and 2- allowing (even limited) use of non-first-party styli (having to spend $80 or more for a spare becomes a pretty hard turnoff pretty quickly).
I bought the first kobo when it came out, and its still working (Mostly) great. Ebooks are great for fiction, but mostly fall apart when dealing with technical books, as I find it much easier to flip around an actual paper book, the physical memory of where stuff is is worth a lot.
I tend to agree, though I have thoughts on the matter.
Books work well, but I’ve also found that reasonably-designed websites work almost as well. A good index and quick access to tables of contents go a long way. Plus the ability to bookmark things and use the url bar to go back to frequently-used pages.
Which means, I think, that a decent tech-reference ereader is achievable. It’s just that the interfaces have so far all been designed for linear reading rather than browsing and flipping. Which makes sense for high-latency page refreshes. Now that e-paper is getting faster, though, we might be getting close to something more useful for tech reference.
How fast is epaper getting? The FAQ for the reMarkable says 50-60ms, which is still awfully slow for me. Probably great for reading, but terrible for note taking. I’m very sensitive to computer notetaking interfaces. I still use lots of dead trees and my favorite pen. I’ve tried 4-5 different tables and dozens of apps and 6-7 different styluses, and absolutely nothing is “good enough” for me to ditch my pen and paper. When I want an archive, I just take scan my pages on a flatbed.
The FAQ mentions “four years” of getting the UX to actually feel like paper. They explicitly call out friction between the stylus and the display, which has always been one of my big “eh, still not as nice as a pen or pencil” for every tablet/stylus combination I’ve tried. It’ll be interesting to see how reality lives up to their claims if they deliver, but I’m not hopeful.
I’ve also been wanting an ereader for PDFs, especially research papers and maths-related things. This could fit the bill, but it’d be a hard sell for me.
There is also noteslate priced at ~$200.
Also looks nice, although I wonder what PDF would be like on such a small screen.
Really shitty, like on every small screen. I solved problem of reading PDF by buying an older iPad 3. Not only that the display is bigger, but interactivity and quick reaction of display helps a lot.
Wonder how transparent/open their “integrated note taking system” is. Easy access to raw files in a standard format would be necessary for me to get excited. I like the idea though :)
Even if you really want a device like this, the specs are quite terrible for a device of this price:
If you use the reMarkable for 2-3 hours a day, it will likely last all week
The problem with these e-ink devices focused around reading is that they are usually not so great at actually getting the documents on to the device. As much as I love my Kindle and try my best to use it, because my default web browser is another device; I rarely use it for my usual reading.
The touch-and-feel aspects are interesting, but those are the sorts of things that you can only determine in person. Hopefully, this product will end up in some stores by next year.
As much as I love my Kindle and try my best to use it, because my default web browser is another device; I rarely use it for my usual reading.
Kobo has an interesting approach to that – they integrated with Pocket. Anything you save into Pocket, you can sync to your Kobo over wifi. That, fwiw, has significantly extended its usefulness for me.
The big downside to this device in my eyes is that its screen is only 226 DPI. For reference, a Kindle Paperwhite has a 300 DPI screen. I’d be looking to buy this to read academic papers, and I think the resolution on it might be a bit low. I sent an email to their support asking about the resolution and never heard back, which is not a good sign (but not necessarily a bad one).
Interesting, but as lorddimwit and robertmeta said it is expensive and even uncertain. They state that OS is Codex Linux. Does anyone knows what is it?
According to their FAQ, it’s:
a custom Linux-based OS optimized for low-latency e-paper
So I suspect that it’s internally developed.
Interesting. I currently do a lot of my reading on my iPad, but I’d prefer something with an e-ink display, at least for books and papers and suchlike. If this turns out to be a thing, I might be convinced to cough up the dough, but in no way am I going to subsidize their development costs before the thing is even available.
Ideally, it’d have a 600-1200DPI screen, not be based on Unix, have no network connectivity, and weigh some negligible fractional ounce. But the specs as listed are attractive enough for me to bookmark this.
The price! ?