Proposal for crystal-lang tag. This language, not only for maturity in the early stage, also gains a lot of traction on Lobsters. This thread is just an example of it.
Agreed. Taking the human-friendly parts of the Ruby syntax that is possible to make run fast and then making that into a natively compiled language is a solid foundation. Lilith helps demonstrate how usable Crystal is, for demanding tasks.
I think the name is a bit unfortunate, though, but naming things is always hard.
There are only two hard things in Computer Science: cache invalidation and naming things.
i would never in a thousand years have thought of associating ‘crystal’ with crystal meth. i think the name is great, and goes along with the general gemstones-and-minerals naming scheme that is common for programming languages
I can’t think of any programming languages except Ruby and Crystal that are following a naming scheme that centers around gems and crystals. Do you have other examples?
perl was of course the canonical one, and ruby was influenced by that. this list has onyx, jade and opal, and i remember alternate ruby implementations being called topaz, sapphire and opal, but you’re right, it’s not as popular a trend as i was imagining.
never watched breaking bad, but i read a lot of science fiction and fantasy, so that’s my primary cultural association with the word “crystal”. there’s also the whole new age “crystal energy” thing. i don’t think you can call it a bad name based on an association you have formed from a single tv show.
Hell yeah, and The Dark Crystal movie and show are brilliant nonetheless. As is Breaking Bad, and probably the Crystal language as well.
The point I was making was that associating with Darkness is as far-fetched - though TDC is kind of dark - as associating with Crystal Meth. AFAIK the more common street name is Meth anyway, not Crystal.
Unless we have no data indicating what the most common association is, your guess is as good as mine. I assume this also varies a lot from culture to culture.
My personal associations with the word Crystal are mainly questionable things like “Crystal Meth” or “Crystal Healing”, which I want to avoid. This could be because English is not my first language, but I don’t believe I’m alone in this.
Actual data would be needed in order to determine if people in general mainly associate Crystal with minerals or questionable things, though.
I don’t really have a specific goal in mind, but my plan is to make an OS that’s usable (at least for me!) with some experimental unix redesigns. I don’t plan on being the next plan9 but at least I can be plan8? :^)
Proposal for
crystal-langtag. This language, not only for maturity in the early stage, also gains a lot of traction on Lobsters. This thread is just an example of it.Agreed. Taking the human-friendly parts of the Ruby syntax that is possible to make run fast and then making that into a natively compiled language is a solid foundation. Lilith helps demonstrate how usable Crystal is, for demanding tasks.
I think the name is a bit unfortunate, though, but naming things is always hard.
There are two hard problems in computer science: cache invalidation, naming things, and off-by-one errors.
I don’t understand what makes the name unfortunate?
Lilith was a workstation built by Niklaus Wirth at ETH Zürich.
For anyone having watched Breaking Bad, the immediate association is Crystal Meth.
i would never in a thousand years have thought of associating ‘crystal’ with crystal meth. i think the name is great, and goes along with the general gemstones-and-minerals naming scheme that is common for programming languages
I can’t think of any programming languages except Ruby and Crystal that are following a naming scheme that centers around gems and crystals. Do you have other examples?
Also, have you watched Breaking Bad?
perl was of course the canonical one, and ruby was influenced by that. this list has onyx, jade and opal, and i remember alternate ruby implementations being called topaz, sapphire and opal, but you’re right, it’s not as popular a trend as i was imagining.
never watched breaking bad, but i read a lot of science fiction and fantasy, so that’s my primary cultural association with the word “crystal”. there’s also the whole new age “crystal energy” thing. i don’t think you can call it a bad name based on an association you have formed from a single tv show.
For anyone having seen The Dark Crystal, the immediate association is Darkness.
Or quality puppeteering and questionable lipsync.
Hell yeah, and The Dark Crystal movie and show are brilliant nonetheless. As is Breaking Bad, and probably the Crystal language as well.
The point I was making was that associating with Darkness is as far-fetched - though TDC is kind of dark - as associating with Crystal Meth. AFAIK the more common street name is Meth anyway, not Crystal.
Unless we have no data indicating what the most common association is, your guess is as good as mine. I assume this also varies a lot from culture to culture.
My personal associations with the word Crystal are mainly questionable things like “Crystal Meth” or “Crystal Healing”, which I want to avoid. This could be because English is not my first language, but I don’t believe I’m alone in this.
Actual data would be needed in order to determine if people in general mainly associate Crystal with minerals or questionable things, though.
If there are other examples of posts that merit a new tag, feel free to list them in a new meta post suggesting a new tag.
This is a really great project!. Is
ffwffin lobsters? If so, any chance you can explain your future goals? Where do you plan to take lilith?Present!
I don’t really have a specific goal in mind, but my plan is to make an OS that’s usable (at least for me!) with some experimental unix redesigns. I don’t plan on being the next plan9 but at least I can be plan8? :^)
That is a great goal :) I will certainly watch lilith to see where you take it.