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    Happily, the sigil generator library (online demo), including the symbol alphabet, is open source under the MIT License. So even if you never want anything to do with Urbit, you can still use these pretty symbols as an alternative visual style for Identicons in other contexts. For example, you could use generated sigils as avatars for your app’s users or icons for your company’s internal servers.

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      I don’t think there’s anything Urbit can do or say to erase the history of Yarvin or my overall impression that they’re building “digital share-cropping” from Yarvin’s ideals.

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        I neither have a slightest idea what Urbit is, nor Yarvin. But the visuals in the article look interesting to me.

        Personally, I actually most like the 2nd set of images in the Experiments + iterations section. They seem to have most visual difference between them, compared to all the others, in my eyes. I’m very curious what was the algorithm behind them.

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          Agreed - this article is so precisely up my alley but I wish it had come from anywhere else

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            In 10 years I believe this is the only imprint Urbit will have left behind.

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            Haters gonna hate. But on Lobste.rs, I expect better quality comments. This is about on the level of commenting “but Google’s so bad” on a Google product team’s tech blog, with no reference to the actual content. It’s low-effort, and needlessly negative.

            Even someone who is politically or philosopically opposed to Urbit’s structure can learn something about generative graphic design from this post. I found it pretty thoughtful myself. It’s a small but meaningful problem they’re taking on here.

            Sad thing is, I expect this comment to get downvoted by approximately the same users who upvoted yours, for the same essentially political reasons. So let me be clear: I’m just speaking up for civil, technical, on-topic discussion. I’m not expressing any opinion about Urbit’s system design or history, and I’m not even slightly interested in rehashing that tired topic here.

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              I upvoted the article, which I found interesting and the art therein beautiful. But does saying that count as a high-effort comment?

              There’s a difference between leaving a comment on Lobsters rehashing Google, a widely known company with a long public history, and leaving a comment about an obscure start-up. In both cases, you are familiar with the subject, but for many here, they may never have heard of Urbit before. I guess an analogy would be “knives don’t need warning labels, but odorless deadly chemicals do”.

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                Or, you could just Google “urbit”, and find as much drama as you can stomach. Without wanting to get into how “deadly” it is, I don’t agree that it’s “odorless”.

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                Thank you for this comment. The main reason I prefer Lobsters to HN is the general absence of politics, and a clear focus on technology. I hope it stays that way.

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                  Urbit is a politically motivated technology, so why is it allowed on this site then?

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                Yeah its certainly some kind of scam. What specific kind of scam will be more obvious as it plays out but nothing good comes out of trying to model feudalism.

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                  Are you really sure about that? Last century was very democratic and very very bloody.

                  In the old days, the winners turned the losers into serfs. At least that was somewhat productive, and there were periods of peace between the conquests.

                  The modern approach is to napalm and drone-strike relatively harmless peasants–perpetually and fruitlessly–so that corporate and military bureaucrats can justify their paychecks.

                  Also, it is highly debatable whether the disparity between a modern-day oligarch and an ordinary joe is any smaller than that of a 16th century noble and his peasants.

                  I don’t see a clear winner here.

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                    There’s countries where you can try out a feudal system today if you think that’s comparable. Somehow I suspect your opinions will shift when you go there and see that it’s a human meat grinder. You might think that you would be the lord, but I can assure you that you would be a serf unless you are particularly talented at murder.

                    Edit: Actually, given the proliferation of people who advocate for the literal murder and subjugation of their peers here, I’m just gonna delete my account. Y’all have fun.

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                Interesting. Bit of a shame they landed on 32 bits, though… That means there isn’t an ID for everyone, and certainly not enough if we don’t assume id’s will be inherited.

                There are 2^32 or 4.2 billion unique Urbit IDs.