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    This is advertising folks. This is consumer product news.

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      The subission title as well as the article are incorrect. No, Nokia is still not making phones. HMD is. Nokia is just providing them branding. Ars has better report about it: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/02/report-hmd-to-resurrect-legendary-nokia-3310-at-mobile-world-congress/

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        I used a dumbphone long, long after “everyone” had switched.

        The main smartphone feature I envied was contact synchronization. Lose or destroy a phone, and you lose contacts, or at the very least have to re-enter them on the new phone.

        I once had a dumb phone that let you sync contacts via a USB cable, but most didn’t.

        I want to say “just add that one feature!”, but of course everyone has their pet feature, and the whole point of this thing is to be simple.

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          I still use a dumbphone! My best work gets done when I’m away from the computer. If I was as distracted walking around as I am sitting at my desktop I’d never get anything done.

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            Same here, I also like to not be connected to the Internet everywhere.

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            Most dumbphones I used had the option to save contacts to the SIM, though the onboard memory is somewhat limited it at least allows your contacts to outlive the life of your device.

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              All mine had that feature. I used it by default for critical contacts. Still do on smartphone but with backups.

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                Yeah, but when you lose a phone (or have it stolen) you tend to lose the SIM as well

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                  Yes, but when you accidentally walk into the ocean with the phone in your pocket, you wish the contacts were backed up outside the phone.

                  Not that I’ve ever done something so stupid, mind you. ;)

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                  Does it have an IR port? Remember those?

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                    Wow, there’s a flashback - I used to synchronise my contacts from my Palm Pilot to my (Nokia) phone using IR.

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                    Just get a smartphone and use it as a phonebook then.

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                      Where do you draw a line for dumbphones? I think most of those late feature phones that had either camera or bluetooth were supported by gnokii on the level of sending (not always reading…) SMS, dialing phone numbers and copying contacts between computer and the phone. They didn’t always come with their own software, and you needed to try a few protocols to make them work, though.

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                      They were safer in the past because they were actually dumb. Today, the best deal in volume economics for feature phones are SoC’s that can do a lot more. It will likely be a low-end, smart CPU/MCU with a dumb interface. It might approximate the reliability & battery advantages but security advantage is either gone or lower.

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                        Pretty sure if you look at the quantity of bugs due to software is several orders of magnitude higher than those you get from hardware. Worrying about the 1% is goods but the energy would be better spent on the 99%?

                        Not stating there is no problem, but a chip with virtualisation functioanlity, an (IP)MMU, stack protection and crypto acceleration is probably baseline functionality that is more desirable in today’s hardware than longing for the days of a Z80 or 6502 powering a phone?

                        After all, you probably still want to check email and post on lobste.rs? :-)

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                        Reconditioned originals are widely available for $15 or so - unclear why there’s suddenly demand.

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                          Hipster population has been on an exponential increase since the turn of the century.

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                          These phones aren’t anywhere near as expensive as I expected. I’m totally sold.