I worry that PeerTube, like other modern P2P systems, has not been designed to protect metadata from exfiltration. This is important partially because part of the goal of PeerTube is to remove dependencies on centralized repositories such as YouTube, and it might not be a net gain, or any kind of gain, to leak information not just to specific large corporations, but to completely-unknown peers.
The privacy issues are known and difficult to fix. There is a security doc which covers reporting vulnerabilities, but no documentation explaining the security design of the system. The design doc doesn’t directly cover security.
Meanwhile, PeerTube is built on ActivityPub, whose upstream designers are recent converts to object-capability theory and have started exploring both decentralized authority and object capabilities for Linked Data, but PeerTube doesn’t appear plugged into these discussions. That’s unfortunate precisely because of the strong intersection with capabilities and content-addressed storage of large blobs; a choice quote from the former paper:
it’s worth mentioning the idea of moving ActivityPub to an entirely append-only, content-addressed system for object storage, “modification”, and retrieval. Much success has been seen in recent years with these systems; enacting this change would allow for many of the side effects in the federation system to be dropped entirely.
I would rather have this future than a PeerTube future.
Some strong points. I remember seeing some threads about people looking to take the good parts of PeerTube and folding it into the DiD (decentralized identity distribution) models. We’ll see!
People respond to incentives. In YouTube’s case that looks like “smash that subscribe button”, padding for time, a video every day until burning out, weird toddler videos, etc. It’s hard to design a business model that pays video creators for novel work done sustainably, but doing so could be a cultural shift, especially in programming for children/teens.
Counterpoint youtube’s monetization is so fickle and poorly implemented that most successful youtubers actually live off of patreon or a patreon alternative. Patreon or as someone else said LibrePay is completely compatible with Peertube.
I worry that PeerTube, like other modern P2P systems, has not been designed to protect metadata from exfiltration. This is important partially because part of the goal of PeerTube is to remove dependencies on centralized repositories such as YouTube, and it might not be a net gain, or any kind of gain, to leak information not just to specific large corporations, but to completely-unknown peers.
The privacy issues are known and difficult to fix. There is a security doc which covers reporting vulnerabilities, but no documentation explaining the security design of the system. The design doc doesn’t directly cover security.
Meanwhile, PeerTube is built on ActivityPub, whose upstream designers are recent converts to object-capability theory and have started exploring both decentralized authority and object capabilities for Linked Data, but PeerTube doesn’t appear plugged into these discussions. That’s unfortunate precisely because of the strong intersection with capabilities and content-addressed storage of large blobs; a choice quote from the former paper:
I would rather have this future than a PeerTube future.
Some strong points. I remember seeing some threads about people looking to take the good parts of PeerTube and folding it into the DiD (decentralized identity distribution) models. We’ll see!
I think monetization will be important. Many YouTube uploaders live off YouTube monetization schemes. Without monetization they won’t move.
Feature not bug.
People respond to incentives. In YouTube’s case that looks like “smash that subscribe button”, padding for time, a video every day until burning out, weird toddler videos, etc. It’s hard to design a business model that pays video creators for novel work done sustainably, but doing so could be a cultural shift, especially in programming for children/teens.
I think some sort of integration/easy onboarding with platforms like liberapay would be an incredibly useful feature for uploaders.
It’s doable! There’s people working to make subscriptions a thing. Right now you can directly back people using Patreon.
Or Liberapay.
Counterpoint youtube’s monetization is so fickle and poorly implemented that most successful youtubers actually live off of patreon or a patreon alternative. Patreon or as someone else said LibrePay is completely compatible with Peertube.
I watch couple of youtubers and I’ve never heard from them anything except ‘Like’ and ‘Subscribe’ (anecdotal experience).
yeah they still need to expand their audience to get more patrons.