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    Did you figure out the “music mode” yet? I’m still totally stumped at what one would use this for.

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      It disables keypresses but makes the speaker play audio. It’s a neat gimmick.

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      IIRC there’s no such thing as a brown light, so I’d give up chasing that dream :)

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        yeah, i learned that the hard way lol. was trying to have the media layer look like my shark OC. It kinda works in a dark room though!

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        @cadey I’ve been considering a moonlander for a bit, and I’m curious about how well it would work for me. I use a Kenisis Advantage now, but want something split for the gaming features, portability, nice lights, programmability, etc.

        1. What were the keyboards you used before this? Were they “ergo” or more typical kinds of things?

        2. This can be a bit private, but would you be comfortable sharing your hand or finger length? My fingers are on the stubby side so the cups on the kenisis help with that aspect of “reaching” for keys

        3. What key layout do you use? QWERTY/dvorak/?

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          Advantage has better tenting than the Dox or Moonlander. The Lander looks to utilize a similar thumb cluster to the Dox, which has serious issues unless you tent to an extreme amount (55-70°) but the way the Lander is designed, your limited to the amount of tent via the thumb cluster alone. I use an Advantage in tandem with some other splits like the Iris and enjoy them a lot more. You can also QMK your Advantage via the KinT controller (https://github.com/kinx-project/kint), they’re easy and really open up the possibilities. I’m highly opinionated about ergo setups, but my philosophy is that if the board is flat, tent it as high as it’ll go, the neutral position of the wrist is 70°. There’s also the Dactyl and Manuform variations if you’re curious about a more split contoured situation, which are very nice to type on as well. As with everything said, ergonomics is highly personal and what works for certain individuals can be detrimental to others, so experiment and enjoy spending too much money in the pursuit of pain free programming.

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            As with everything said, ergonomics is highly personal and what works for certain individuals can be detrimental to others, so experiment and enjoy spending too much money in the pursuit of pain free programming.

            This is worth highlighting. I have an Ergodox and experimented extensively with tenting and tilting. I found that any tent angle pushes my hands upwards a bit relative to my forearm; causing pain in my arm muscles (the one that connects to your pinky and ring finger, forgot the name) after prolonged use.

            I ended up putting my Ergodox flat on the desk, which has thus far been much more comfortable. For me wrist pain has never been an issue either, instead it has always been either shoulder pain or forearm pain. Tenting doesn’t really help against either from what I’ve experienced, instead it comes more down to the correct desk/chair/etc height, and overall posture.

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              I found that any tent angle pushes my hands upwards a bit relative to my forearm; causing pain in my arm muscles (the one that connects to your pinky and ring finger, forgot the name) after prolonged use.

              This is correct, if you tent heavily, you need a keyboard tray or mechanism to lower the mounted surface, like a tripod on the floor so that the two half’s come up to the waist or a sit stand desk, where you can lower the table where your forearms are at an optimal angle. I tent with primarily 60% and lower boards, so I have my table almost sitting on my legs as I type and when I use my Advantage, I use it on my lap with a trackball in the center.

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            1. DasKeyboard Ultimate, Logitech MX keys, Logitech G810, Apple butterfly
            2. my middle finger is 5u long almost exactly
            3. colemak
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              does it confuse people that your keys are labeled qwerty but actually colemak?

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                My fiance’s reactions are priceless. My favorite in recent memory is “your layout is fucking crazy”.

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            What’s your reaction to the tilted thumb keys?

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              Still getting used to them, but the advantages are there. I love having a colon key that’s so easy to access.

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              Have been using an ergodox ez for years now, love them. Build quality is great, features and an easy web ui even better. Can’t justify the cost for a moonlander just yet, and I for one love the thumb cluster (most complained part of the ergodox). I think I’d miss all the thumb keys.

              Are you able to compare the moonlander to an ergodox @cadey?

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                I am not. I like the moonlander for what it is, but this is my first split ergo keyboard.

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                Were you in the second batch? The third is suppose to start shipping between October 23 and ~Nov 6th but I haven’t heard anything yet.

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                  I was very early in the third batch, my keyboard shipped on the 21st. Order number 24xx.

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                    Mine shipped 21st and I was late in the second batch - but I got an email a few weeks ago telling me that they had to delay my order due to QC rejects on case molds. Might be worth scouring your emails for that if you’re in the second batch and haven’t seen yours yet.

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                    I have one of these on order as an experiment as well, having bounced off of the Kinesis not because of the split, but because its ctrl/opt/meta keys are aligned differently than the ones on my Surface and my macOS keyboards, in a way that actively hurt me to use.

                    I’m curious how this’ll go; I’m an emacs user, so finding ways to make my meta / leader keys work well naturally will be interesting.

                    Thanks for the writeup!