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      Cute. OP should probably never work in certain industries/orgs.

      I’m not saying it’s good, I’m not defending it, but I suppose some of us can just accept it.

      Totally agree on the being accountable part, as in my experience it also often goes hand in hand with:

      • I want a better deployment than tar.gz via ssh - no
      • I want metrics - no
      • I want access to monitoring - no

      Well ok, then you go watch it explode, I don’t even care anymore.