So, it’s working really well but the complex stacks in Linux are breaking a lot. Especially on hardware stuff. I’m curious if anyone in NetBSD or OpenBSD camps plans to try to get those working on it. That might be a better experience esp for console users.
That’s a good thing. A high-quality, high-performance UNIX on POWER9. Especially for high-security since a contender for most secure UNIX is CheriBSD which is FreeBSD on capability-secure, MIPS-based CPU. One might use TALOS II to develop for it. More importantly, in long term such security enhancements like CHERI could get merged into an OpenPOWER core that becomes a future TALOS workstation. A significant drop in performance from checks might not hurt if the starting point is what a POWER9 or up can do. ;)
Some people (outside the “NetBSD or OpenBSD camps”, too…) spend their time on such things because they are able to and they value diversity (POWER9 is the most interesting part in this case, at least for me).
I think that this was true for Apple’s PPC hardware supports your point. It cost a bit extra with small market share. A lot less software was developed for it. However, the groups that stayed on it after Apple ditched PPC made a lot of software work on it. So, it’s possible a niche effort could make these usable.
Im not sure what the overlap is between those kind of devs and people that can drop almost ten grand on a machine.
Yeah, and decoding H.264 or VP9 at YouTube data rates just isn’t a lot of work for a modern CPU, regardless of how poorly optimized the software stack is.
Idk about HD but my G4 Mac on old version of OS handled Youtube videos. Framerate wasnt as good. Fan blowing loudly. You could tell it was struggling but it did it with performance Id tolerate.
POWER9 better be able to handle heavier loads than an $80 laptop from 2003. Haha.
So, it’s working really well but the complex stacks in Linux are breaking a lot. Especially on hardware stuff. I’m curious if anyone in NetBSD or OpenBSD camps plans to try to get those working on it. That might be a better experience esp for console users.
There is a FreeBSD effort to port to POWER9, I think one developer has also received a TALOS II.
Hopefully the market will expand and we will see lower prices. I am all for diversity, but damn $7000 for any machine is a lot of money.
That’s a good thing. A high-quality, high-performance UNIX on POWER9. Especially for high-security since a contender for most secure UNIX is CheriBSD which is FreeBSD on capability-secure, MIPS-based CPU. One might use TALOS II to develop for it. More importantly, in long term such security enhancements like CHERI could get merged into an OpenPOWER core that becomes a future TALOS workstation. A significant drop in performance from checks might not hurt if the starting point is what a POWER9 or up can do. ;)
I think the price tag might put a damper on it for both devs and users. Not much demand, so why sink the development time?
Some people (outside the “NetBSD or OpenBSD camps”, too…) spend their time on such things because they are able to and they value diversity (POWER9 is the most interesting part in this case, at least for me).
I think that this was true for Apple’s PPC hardware supports your point. It cost a bit extra with small market share. A lot less software was developed for it. However, the groups that stayed on it after Apple ditched PPC made a lot of software work on it. So, it’s possible a niche effort could make these usable.
Im not sure what the overlap is between those kind of devs and people that can drop almost ten grand on a machine.
Video playback is all native, JS JIT doesn’t have anything to do with it o_0
Yeah, and decoding H.264 or VP9 at YouTube data rates just isn’t a lot of work for a modern CPU, regardless of how poorly optimized the software stack is.
Idk about HD but my G4 Mac on old version of OS handled Youtube videos. Framerate wasnt as good. Fan blowing loudly. You could tell it was struggling but it did it with performance Id tolerate.
POWER9 better be able to handle heavier loads than an $80 laptop from 2003. Haha.
One would hope, yes.