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    Old but good. Archive.org has a copy from 2010, should we add a date to the title?

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      It’s a lot older than that. Talking about FreeBSD 4.9…

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          1) Adjust the color scheme. It makes it somewhat difficult to read though the site.

          This was #1 on my feedback list, too. :-)

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      Decent article and, even if it is a little dated, the core message is still relevant.

      Loved this quote, which oddly enough I’d never encountered in my 20+ years of using *BSD:

      BSD is what you get when a bunch of Unix hackers sit down to try to port a Unix system to the PC. Linux is what you get when a bunch of PC hackers sit down and try to write a Unix system for the PC.

      Particularly relevant in the era of systemd et al. Hmm, it’s just reminded me of reading Bill and Lynne Jolitz’s 386BSD articles in DDJ when I was a schoolkid and trying to make head or tail of them.

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        “BSD is for people who love Unix. Linux is for people who hate Microsoft.” is a relevant quote, supposedly attributed to Theo de Raadt, but I can’t seem to find any source.

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          A quick web search finds the quote as I remember it (“Linux is for people who hate Windows. BSD is for people who love Unix.”), unattributed.

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            The quote from deraadt@ is “Linux people do what they do because they hate Microsoft. We do what we do because we love Unix” from this article.

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            the core message is still relevant

            Is it really? Gentoo Linux evolved in a better *BSD replacement under all aspects.

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              Gentoo is nice, I guess, but to me it doesn’t feel like BSD at all. As a user I see GNU utils, man pages lacking quality, no SIGINFO and not much coherence. As a sysadmin I see a Linux boot sequence, from bootloader to init scripts, and other management utils, such as partitioning tools. As a programmer I see glibc.

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                Look at Portage and not just at how “recipes” are no longer makefiles, but shell scripts. Look at all the extra functionality compared to *BSD ports: https://projects.gentoo.org/pms/6/pms.html

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                  What extra functionality do you mean?

                  I used Gentoo for two years in 2014-2015 and liked it, and I may use it again soon. But it’s just not s BSD system, and BSD is not only (or even primarily) about ports.

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            I tried installing FreeBSD on my laptop a while ago, it was all fine and dandy until I realized I couldn’t get X to run because Baytrail. T_T

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              The BSDs have a slower pace of development, it’s true. However I find that less stuff in the base system is obviously broken – it either works or does not. And it’s well-documented to boot!

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                That looks super cool. I really want it. But… baytrail. -_- more like betrayal, of me, by my past self, by buying FreeBSD unsupported hardware for dirt cheap.

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                  FWIW, OpenBSD has support for Bay Trail in 5.9: http://www.openbsd.org/59.html

                  inteldrm(4) has been updated to Linux 3.14.52, adding initial support for Bay Trail and Broadwell graphics.

                  (DRM here refers to Direct Rendering Manager, not Digital Rights Management)

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                    Tempted to try… can one set up a live usb thing like I recall I could do with Ubuntu where you kinda get to try the system before you install? I’m very much enticed by the idea of a freebsd system, and I have yet to fully tweak this instance of Linux. Maybe a huge backup if I know it works, but that’s all.

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                      I use OpenBSD so I’m not as sure about FreeBSD. You could run the installer from one USB stick and install to a second USB stick. OpenBSD doesn’t have a live CD with a desktop to my knowledge, but it was easy to install X using the installer, and get XFCE binary packages after booting the new system.

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                        Sooooooo two sticks, one comp. Got it.

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                FWIW, many Linux distributions struggled with Bay Trail support as a lot (all?) of the systems had 32-bit EFI even though the CPU is 64-bit, making installation of a 64-bit OS tricky (the Linux assumption was 64-bit system has 64-bit EFI).