Ah! Thanks! I’m very curious why there’s a brand new spec, with new name, that only slightly deviates in functionality… but this is (probably) a social issue that goes way beyond this spec in particular.
It really is much simpler. Instead of messing around with XMLRPC it’s just a single HTTP POST request. it does a really good job reusing parts of the web too, so it just feels more webby. I found it extremely easy to implement :-)
Trackback is the oldest one. It did not say anything about verifying that the source actually links to the target, making spam extremely trivial.
Pingback is the Wordpress XML-RPC one. Pretty much no one implemented useful presentation of pingbacks, just Wordpress’s useless default snippets. Eventually got overrun with Wordpress spam (with actual links).
Trackbacks are back!
Serious question: What is better about Webmentions?
The protocol is slightly simpler, but otherwise *back, *mention, they all boil down to the same function.
Webmention is often paired with other good things, like microformats support, but of course that’s a separate thing.
Ah! Thanks! I’m very curious why there’s a brand new spec, with new name, that only slightly deviates in functionality… but this is (probably) a social issue that goes way beyond this spec in particular.
It really is much simpler. Instead of messing around with XMLRPC it’s just a single HTTP POST request. it does a really good job reusing parts of the web too, so it just feels more webby. I found it extremely easy to implement :-)
Oh, great! I’ll have to read it in more detail. It’s been a long time since I thought about XMLRPC, and completely forgot that Trackback relied on it.
Trackback is the oldest one. It did not say anything about verifying that the source actually links to the target, making spam extremely trivial.
Pingback is the Wordpress XML-RPC one. Pretty much no one implemented useful presentation of pingbacks, just Wordpress’s useless default snippets. Eventually got overrun with Wordpress spam (with actual links).
Webmention comes from a community of people who actually care about this stuff, which leads to useful presentation of different types of responses, anti-spam solutions, propagating responses-to-responses back to the source, integration with Twitter/Facebook/etc., interaction with Mastodon/Hubzilla…
And there’s Linked Data Notifications from people who believe that this is the Year of RDF on the Web :)
This is perfect timing. I was just wondering about how to add webmention to my mostly static site.
Glad to be of service <3