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    So true:

    They [Google] released sample implementations under open source licenses, encouraged others to run their own Wave servers independent of Google infrastructure, and defined a federation protocol (on top of Jabber/XMPP) so that people on different servers could still talk with each other.

    This seems weird, a decade later, when Google and Facebook are each trying to get everyone into their walled gardens so they can serve ads to you.

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      Back then, Facebook and Google were using XMPP for them IM services - now look at the mess we have…

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        I liked that you did not need a Facebook or Google account to speak with their victims. :(

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          Well, Facebook didn’t federate.

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      I used Google Wave briefly to plan a trip with some friends. It had a lot of potential, actually.

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        I also used Google Wave and agree; I saw the potential right away. It’s a shame it was underappreciated and the project wasn’t a priority and given more resources.

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          I’ve used iOS notes and it makes edits instantly visible. I’m sure there are other collaborative tools available.

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          The Operation Transform approach from Wave did end up getting used for Google Docs, which does have hundreds of millions of users.

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            Is IMAP considered the “cleanest” implementation of email possible?

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              No, but JMAP probably is.

              IMAP is like a filesystem with poor performance and doesn’t allow batching of commands

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                FWIW IMAP also seems to have its own host of layers of cruft

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                cf. “Worse is Better.”