Yeah I honestly think it should be illegal for employers to discriminate against felons. How the hell are they supposed to rehabilitate if they can’t work.
I’ve heard the sex offender registry in Australia isn’t public; it can only be used for certain jobs (schools, medical clinics, etc.) and certain housing.
Criminal records and sex offender registries have a lot to do with labeling theory. It’s how countries like the US keep and grow a lower class. It’s pretty sad and really needs to chance.
It’s interesting how a little over 100 years ago, you really had no record. If you fucked up bad, and escaped, and fled to a far away place and could speak the language, you could start again. Today you have a permanent identity that stays with you until you die.
It’s true. Many moons ago, I worked (as a contractor) on the project that developed (then called) ANCOR system.
Access was highly restricted - only select officers, only using a network that’s granted access, etc.
I never really saw production data, but I’ve heard from others on the project that it’s not that uncommon for the people on the register to be nothing more than a teenage boy who sleeps with his [willing] teenage girlfriend perhaps 18 and 16 or so?) and the parent(s) of the girl press charges against the boy.
Sure, the law should change to prevent those sort of cases, but things like Child Offender Registers (that’s the COR in ANCOR) also need to err on the side of caution when it comes to what information is made public.
Then again, Australia also has sane gun laws (that doesn’t mean guns are outright banned) and a health care system that actually works, so the sanity of this should hardly be surprising.
When I lived in Melbourne, there was a gun shop at the end of my street (near the Vic Market). You can own guns in Australia; you just need to register and have a reason (sport and pests are valid reasons, defense is not). I think you’re require to own a safe and store things in a certain way.
Oddly enough in New Zealand, you cannot check a gun on a plane if you’re going to a shooting competition, but you can send it via courier. O_o I know a person who would just drive to Auckland instead of fly, so she didn’t have to ship her gun to a store up there. (Technically you’re not suppose to leave your car ever while transporting them, even when you get gas, but .. meh).
I personally think most of the US gun laws are kept the way they are because the gun industry makes a ton of money in guns smuggled into South/Central America. I wrote about it here:
The label “felon” applies very broadly, from murder, to blackmail, and drug related charges. So, it’s especially heinous when an application is discarded because the felon checkbox is checked, but the crime was “intent to distribute marijuana.”
Right but also heinous because felons have no real path the rehabilitation. It’s frankly cruel and unconscionable to let someone live totally isolated from society while having to live in it. Our prison system is wretched but it’s also wretched for us to treat them like criminals after they’ve done their time.
If our courts didn’t require that felons wear a Scarlett letter for the rest of their life, this problem wouldn’t be nearly so wretched. The fact that no process exists to prove you’ve been rehabilitated*, and thus, eventually “timing out” the Scarlett letter is the crime.
I’ve noticed that Joyent has remote positions and their ads say: “Qualified applicants with criminal histories will be considered for the position in a manner consistent with the Fair Chance Ordinance.” Maybe this person could see if they have use for his talents? (Ping @bcantrill, which I hope wasn’t in unbelievably bad taste?)
Maybe he is, and this is an attempt to find more steady work that definitely will pay out, but I wonder why his efforts aren’t focused on building apps for “app stores.” He very clearly has some marketing ability, and his portfolio speaks to fairly good taste in design. In that process, he also doesn’t have to speak to his felon status.
That’s a criminally low rate per hour.
Yeah I honestly think it should be illegal for employers to discriminate against felons. How the hell are they supposed to rehabilitate if they can’t work.
I’ve heard the sex offender registry in Australia isn’t public; it can only be used for certain jobs (schools, medical clinics, etc.) and certain housing.
Criminal records and sex offender registries have a lot to do with labeling theory. It’s how countries like the US keep and grow a lower class. It’s pretty sad and really needs to chance.
It’s interesting how a little over 100 years ago, you really had no record. If you fucked up bad, and escaped, and fled to a far away place and could speak the language, you could start again. Today you have a permanent identity that stays with you until you die.
It’s true. Many moons ago, I worked (as a contractor) on the project that developed (then called) ANCOR system.
Access was highly restricted - only select officers, only using a network that’s granted access, etc.
I never really saw production data, but I’ve heard from others on the project that it’s not that uncommon for the people on the register to be nothing more than a teenage boy who sleeps with his [willing] teenage girlfriend perhaps 18 and 16 or so?) and the parent(s) of the girl press charges against the boy.
Sure, the law should change to prevent those sort of cases, but things like Child Offender Registers (that’s the COR in ANCOR) also need to err on the side of caution when it comes to what information is made public.
Then again, Australia also has sane gun laws (that doesn’t mean guns are outright banned) and a health care system that actually works, so the sanity of this should hardly be surprising.
When I lived in Melbourne, there was a gun shop at the end of my street (near the Vic Market). You can own guns in Australia; you just need to register and have a reason (sport and pests are valid reasons, defense is not). I think you’re require to own a safe and store things in a certain way.
Oddly enough in New Zealand, you cannot check a gun on a plane if you’re going to a shooting competition, but you can send it via courier. O_o I know a person who would just drive to Auckland instead of fly, so she didn’t have to ship her gun to a store up there. (Technically you’re not suppose to leave your car ever while transporting them, even when you get gas, but .. meh).
I personally think most of the US gun laws are kept the way they are because the gun industry makes a ton of money in guns smuggled into South/Central America. I wrote about it here:
https://fightthefuture.org/article/america-and-the-mexican-drug-trade/
Never heard of that. At a glance, seems like a good compromise.
The label “felon” applies very broadly, from murder, to blackmail, and drug related charges. So, it’s especially heinous when an application is discarded because the felon checkbox is checked, but the crime was “intent to distribute marijuana.”
Right but also heinous because felons have no real path the rehabilitation. It’s frankly cruel and unconscionable to let someone live totally isolated from society while having to live in it. Our prison system is wretched but it’s also wretched for us to treat them like criminals after they’ve done their time.
This.
If our courts didn’t require that felons wear a Scarlett letter for the rest of their life, this problem wouldn’t be nearly so wretched. The fact that no process exists to prove you’ve been rehabilitated*, and thus, eventually “timing out” the Scarlett letter is the crime.
*: in some cases, of course.
There are a lot of felonies that are even worse than that. I recommend the Twitter A Crime a Day.
I think the real question becomes “how / how often are these laws charged, and convicted?” But, yes, your point stands. :)
I’ve noticed that Joyent has remote positions and their ads say: “Qualified applicants with criminal histories will be considered for the position in a manner consistent with the Fair Chance Ordinance.” Maybe this person could see if they have use for his talents? (Ping @bcantrill, which I hope wasn’t in unbelievably bad taste?)
Perhaps you should contact the job seeker directly.
Hope he gets a job. I’m just puzzled at the meaning of 5.1 kids.
Surround sound kids. Which honestly could just mean one and some sugar.
The .1 is the woofer, likely a rescue or mutt.
Wife just got pregnant, at a guess.
Looks like it. So it’s 10% done…
Maybe he is, and this is an attempt to find more steady work that definitely will pay out, but I wonder why his efforts aren’t focused on building apps for “app stores.” He very clearly has some marketing ability, and his portfolio speaks to fairly good taste in design. In that process, he also doesn’t have to speak to his felon status.