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    i… i gotta give it to whoever comes up with these crazy hacks, but it sure highlights the lack of ethics in our area.

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      It’s true. I don’t like it and don’t agree with it, but pretty clever. Whoever came up with that, you thought outside of the box.

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        I wouldn’t consider this any more “our area” than malware.

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        I really hate browser notifications. I never click yes ever. It feels like preventing browsers from going down this hole is just yet another hack. The Spammers and the CAPTCHAers are fighting a continuous war, all because of the 2% of people who actually click on SPAM.

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          I’m amazed there is no “deny all” setting for this

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            My firefox has that in the settings somewhere:

            [X] Block new requests asking to allow notifications

            This will prevent any websites not listed above from requesting permission to send notifications. Blocking notifications may break some website features.

            help links here: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/push-notifications-firefox?as=u&utm_source=inproduct

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              Did anyone find the about:config setting for this, to put in ones user.js? I am aware of dom.webnotifications.enabled, but I don’t want to disable it completely because there are 3 websites which notifications I want.

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                permissions.default.desktop-notification = 2

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              there always has been in Chrome and Safari and since very recently, there’s also one in Firefox. It’s the first thing I turn off whenever I configure a new browser. I can’t possibly think of anybody actually actively wanting notifications to be delivered to them.

              Sure, there’s some web apps like gmail, but even there - I’d rather use a native app for this.

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                I can’t possibly think of anybody actually actively wanting notifications to be delivered to them.

                Users of web-based chat software. I primarily use native apps for that, but occasionally I need to use a chat system that I don’t want to bother installing locally. And it’s nice to have a web backup for when the native app breaks. (I’m looking at you, HipChat for Windows.)

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              There is a default deny option in Chrome, takes a little digging to find though. But I agree that it’s crazy how widespread sites trying to use notification are. There’s like 1 or 2 sites that I actually want them from, but it seems like every single news site and random blog wants to be able to send notifications. And they usually do it immediately upon loading the page, before you’ve even read the article, much less clicked something about wanting to be notified of future posts or something.

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                The only time I have clicked “yes” for notifications is for forums (Discourse only at this point) that offer notifications of replies and DMs. I don’t see a need for any other websites to need to notify me.

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                It’s a good thing that Firefox now allows users to preemptively disable all future notification requests.

                So what is the end goal of this type of hack? I assume the assumption is that someone will just say “yes sure fine”, but then they could easily go into their system UI(?) to disable the notifications after they leave the browser. Notifications in browsers don’t exist in iOS so I don’t know the mechanism for how Android handles this.

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                  but then they could easily go into their system UI(?) to disable the notifications

                  What you’ve just described is beyond the technical abilities of most people, in my experience.