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    Opposing viewpoint: this highlights the immaturity of the software field. Car manufacturers have recall procedures in place. However those procedures are designed with the expectation that it’s not necessary to perform a recall every six months. It’s unfortunate that the message to jeep appears to be “this software stuff is inherently broken and unfixable, best get used to it.”

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      I should add that there is a good argument to be made that software updates are a value add. “A four year old tesla retains more resale value than a four year old jeep because the software package is continuously improved.” That’s an interesting story to tell. But nobody is telling it.

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        I should add that there is a good argument to be made that software updates are a value add.

        I could definitely see a manufacturer adding adverts on older models :) But yes, in general they will make the car better so manufacturers that provide automatic/easy to install updates should hold their value better.

        “A four year old tesla retains more resale value than a four year old jeep because the software package is continuously improved.” That’s an interesting story to tell. But nobody is telling it.

        Yeah, I’d be surprised if that accounted for a significant proportion of the value. And given that the Teslas are only a few years old at the moment, Jeep and other brands are decades old, we can’t even tell at the moment.
        It is also comparing apples to oranges, Tesla is all electric, luxury, quiet, refined, not ideal for road trips (You’re at least going to have to plan where you are staying/charging), Jeep is cheap and abundant, tried and true, goes off road, refuel anywhere, essentially disposable (Well approaching disposable, like the majority of cars).

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        Yes, as best as they can Jeep and other car manufacturers try to avoid requiring updating their firmware at all, spacecraft style. Tesla is kind of a hybrid, I wouldn’t say two sides of the same coin exactly, but it seems like Jeep is that server that is just sitting in the corner at work, sure, in 10 years time it will be old and crusty, but it will still be plodding along, after the first 6 months of its life you can never worry about it again. The Tesla is more like a smart phone, there will be updates every couple of months, some of them fix very freaking important things, others you can’t even tell what they did, some of the updates might even change functionality or break something. Good luck working out if you should update or not.
        They are two different models, I have no idea which will be better in the long run. I tend to think the Tesla model will be favoured by younger people and mad nerds! Companies, governments and the military may prefer the older model, just take them in for a regular service, fix any issues with firmware (If updates even exists) at a major service every few years.