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    Fired culture person philosophy zachholman.com
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    Good article - far more philosophical than I would be in that situation. Finding a job that stay’s a good job is aways a challenge - it doesn’t help with the current state of job hunting / recruiting…

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      Please always consider that this blog post is written by a person that can actually spend a week drinking after being fired and then some to search for a new job.

      Which doesn’t make it a bad post, I think it’s good that people of all experiences write them down.

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        Please always consider that this blog post is written by a person that can actually spend a week drinking after being fired and then some to search for a new job.

        I feel that this comment is fairly morally judgmental. I took the piece to be more of an expression of a fear-turned-reality that many in our profession can relate to. If the post were written by someone who spoke of spending a week surrounded by family, I think it would be pretty strange to say “Please always consider that this blog post is written by a person that can actually spend a week with family after being fired and then some to search for a new job.”

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          You’re interpreting, but yes, it can be read like this. My point is, though, that many don’t have the luxury to take a week of for whatever they want after being fired - be it the bar or the family.

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            I still don’t get the point. Many of us don’t have the luxury of having a job in the first place. And it can get worse. Many of us don’t have the luxury of counting on food to be available for us to eat tomorrow. Are we supposed to be fill up discussions with constant reminders that there is always someone else in the world that has it worse?

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              My point is that the whole blog post crumbles if this security is not there.

              And yes, I have no problems with constant reminders.

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                Everything crumbles if humans can’t rise above the basic security of reasonably assured nourishment for the immediate future. This includes the existence of the Internet itself.

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                  Any statement can be turned into the absurd by widening it and I have no intention to continue in this direction.

                  My statement was about people being fired from a fancy job, writing a blog post about it and how their conclusions come out of their special position. No more, no less. Please stick to it.

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                    OK. Then my statement is that the exact same line of reasoning that you employed can be used about anything—the only differences are purely relative. In other words, it’s absurd to point it out because the very act of pointing it out on an Internet forum requires the same philosophical assumption: you are fortunate to have access to a fancy Internet connection and the free time to worry about such things. If only everyone could have those problems!

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          Normally you’re offered severance pay, so most people actually can afford to sit around for a week (or a month). Being fired is an emotionally exhausting experience. You really need to take some time off before looking for the next thing. But it can also be a great turning point if you give yourself time to recoup.

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              No I’m not getting confused. Severance is pretty normal in the US. I don’t think it’s required, but it would be considered pretty awful if the company never offered any sort of severance. It’s often accompanied by some papers that you have to sign that make you promise to not slander the company, etc. Seeing as he’s not slandering Github, I bet he got severance ;)

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                  I know some people who were fired, but nevertheless received severance to go away quietly. Despite CA being at will, employees can cause trouble through arbitration, etc.

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                    While technically there is a distinct difference between the two, in practice I think there’s some fuzziness. I think the fuzziness arises from the fact that sometimes people who are fired for poor performance, rather than as a side-effect of organizational restructuring, are also given severance.

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                      Seems to be becoming more common, irrespective of the situation, to receive severance in return for signing a non-disparagement agreement on departure. At least with the handful of startups in the Bay Area that I’ve any knowledge of.