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    A FreeBSD developer thinks that five-year-olds are interested in why storage software caches things into RAM and how that cache is managed. The only five-year-olds the speaker has ever met are bugs in the software being discussed.

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      I’m not a fan of n-gate. (I have no general issue with the profanity, I just don’t find it creative. Read one, read all.)

      Still, I’m a bit surprised that it doesn’t lose a word about Rust, one of his hot topics in the last years :). We made it :).

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        I just don’t find it creative. Read one, read all.

        Counterpoint: Medium blogs, of which we must suffer an endless barrage.

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          It’s not a tug of war, both can have this quality.

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          Maybe he just got bored with the repetition. It was getting redundant even to him. It was leave it off for a day or troll himself about it.

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          I love that we finally found the subject even @webshitweekly can’t bring themselves to snark about, and that it’s a talk by UNIX legend maddog.

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            As always, n-gate is a welcome relief from the constant barrage of “new technology, use this”, that fills most frontpages each day and the FOSDEM schedule. As well as getting a good laugh.

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              I got a good laugh out of it, but I’ll admit that it also made me annoyed again that they rejected my talk :P

              Which was in part going to be me complaining (productively though, I hoped) that our systems are way too complex and hard to manage. Somewhat related to what you’re saying here! Ah well.

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                It’s rough to get critical talks accepted (unless you’re going after the milquetoast “tech culture is broken!”, “hiring is broken!”, etc. stuff) into conferences I think. People don’t really want to sit through an incoherent rant, and people don’t want to hear that their new technology (or rather, the conference sponsor consulting firms don’t want to hear) has problems…at least until there’s a new cycle where they can be thought-leaders and sell solutions to those problems.

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              CCC might make another interesting of snark for n-gate.

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                it is easy and cheap to shit all over a volunteer run event for people of a niche interest, but it takes effort to run such an event. I prefer people that do the latter to the people that do the former.

                Why is the author so full of hate? If they used that energy to do something constructive, we would all be better off.

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                  it is easy and cheap to shit all over a volunteer run event for people of a niche interest, but it takes effort to run such an event. I prefer people that do the latter to the people that do the former.

                  well, volunteer and sponsor run. it’s a nice event, but the time i’ve attended it had quite a bit of the big money feeling, compared to c3 (which is not for free, but has reasonable prices compared to other conferences) and maybe froscon (which is also sponsored).

                  n-gate doesn’t shit directly on the event, but on the unreflected tech-hypes. i like matrix, but got a good laugh out of placing the yellow-vests in context with the matrix adoption in france.

                  Why is the author so full of hate?

                  try to look at n-gate as satire. you may not like it in this case, but satire is a valuable thing to have in societies.

                  If they used that energy to do something constructive, we would all be better off.

                  i bet they do many constructive things, but maybe are angry about the current tendency of anti-federation and overengineering which makes hacking on things hard. i could also ask you to use your energy for something constructive and not for criticizing n-gate :)

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                    well, volunteer and sponsor run. it’s a nice event, but the time i’ve attended it had quite a bit of the big money feeling, compared to c3 (which is not for free, but has reasonable prices compared to other conferences) and maybe froscon (which is also sponsored).

                    You seem to attend very different commercial events than I do. At FOSDEM are no sold talking slots, the dev-rooms are community organized, there are no stands with hordes of sales people trying to find leads or any other thing that you may find at what I would call a commercial event.

                    Also, the CCC has a bigger personal backing than Fosdem. They are not just an org for one event, they are a big decentralized organization. BTW: They also have sponsors for things like internet connectivity..

                    n-gate doesn’t shit directly on the event, but on the unreflected tech-hypes. i like matrix, but got a good laugh out of placing the yellow-vests in context with the matrix adoption in france.

                    FOSDEM is everything else but hype in my book. Where else can I see a talk about the latest developments of GRUB or debian developers showing new things? Also calling somebody who works somewhere a “corporate drone” is not satire, but childish. Is the author 16 and has a Che Guevara poster on his wall, or what?

                    try to look at n-gate as satire. you may not like it in this case, but satire is a valuable thing to have in societies.

                    It is just not well done and criticising bad satire is also a part of societies.

                    i bet they do many constructive things, but maybe are angry about the current tendency of anti-federation and overengineering which makes hacking on things hard.

                    Making fun of people who pour their time into a project of their desire is awful IMO.

                    i could also ask you to use your energy for something constructive and not for criticizing n-gate :)

                    Spreading love, not hate is a valuable contribution. Also, I have some time to kill on the train to Brussels.

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                      You seem to attend very different commercial events than I do.

                      I don’t attend many events anymore in general, as I don’t get much personal gain from attending. Big crowds tend to consume my attention.

                      At FOSDEM are no sold talking slots, the dev-rooms are community organized, there are no stands with hordes of sales people trying to find leads or any other thing that you may find at what I would call a commercial event.

                      I never said that there are sold talking slots. I said that it had a feeling of big money involved. Sponsored coffee booths, lots of giveaways, some of them not cheap like stickers are.

                      Also, the CCC has a bigger personal backing than Fosdem. They are not just an org for one event, they are a big decentralized organization.

                      True

                      BTW: They also have sponsors for things like internet connectivity..

                      Ok, but that sponsor was non visible for me when I was there several times.

                      n-gate doesn’t shit directly on the event, but on the unreflected tech-hypes. i like matrix, but got a good laugh out of placing the yellow-vests in context with the matrix adoption in france.

                      FOSDEM is everything else but hype in my book.

                      I never said that FOSDEM is hype, but that there are unreflected tech-hypes present there.

                      Where else can I see a talk about the latest developments of GRUB or debian developers showing new things?

                      Wherever they decide to show up ;)

                      Also calling somebody who works somewhere a “corporate drone” is not satire, but childish. Is the author 16 and has a Che Guevara poster on his wall, or what?

                      Placing ad-hominem arguments against the usage of ad-hominem arguments doesn’t work.

                      […] criticising bad satire is also a part of societies.

                      Agreed.

                      Making fun of people who pour their time into a project of their desire is awful IMO.

                      The threshold when things are considered awful is different for everyone. Politicians can also be considered to pour their time into a project they desire, too. Is it awful to make fun about them?

                      Spreading love, not hate is a valuable contribution.

                      Yes, but it can be a fine line between the two.

                      Also, I have some time to kill on the train to Brussels.

                      maybe the n-gate author had time to kill too ;)

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                        At FOSDEM are no sold talking slots, the dev-rooms are community organized, there are no stands with hordes of sales people trying to find leads or any other thing that you may find at what I would call a commercial event.

                        I never said that there are sold talking slots. I said that it had a feeling of big money involved. Sponsored coffee booths, lots of giveaways, some of them not cheap like stickers are.

                        The github coffee thing is nice. There is one little sign who the sponsor is and that is all. You can also opt-out of it unlike at commercial conferences, where every coffee break is sponsored by blabla and it is the only coffee available. Calling that coffee car as sponsored by “big money” is a bit of a stretch (yes github is now owned by MS; but that was not the case the last years).

                        BTW: They also have sponsors for things like internet connectivity..

                        Ok, but that sponsor was non visible for me when I was there several times.

                        See infrastructure review, it usually gets mentioned there.

                        FOSDEM is everything else but hype in my book.

                        I never said that FOSDEM is hype, but that there are unreflected tech-hypes present there.

                        I spend a lot of time with people at work who love the latest hype (blockchain, IOT, kubernetes etc. etc.) and I like fosdem for being everything but that. There is a lot more fringe stuff and the presentations are less of an ego show thatn other tech events.

                        Where else can I see a talk about the latest developments of GRUB or debian developers showing new things?

                        Wherever they decide to show up ;)

                        def. not at the latest hype conference

                        Also calling somebody who works somewhere a “corporate drone” is not satire, but childish. Is the author 16 and has a Che Guevara poster on his wall, or what?

                        Placing ad-hominem arguments against the usage of ad-hominem arguments doesn’t work.

                        The author started with the ad-hominem, I am calling them out on their bs.

                        Making fun of people who pour their time into a project of their desire is awful IMO.

                        The threshold when things are considered awful is different for everyone. Politicians can also be considered to pour their time into a project they desire, too. Is it awful to make fun about them?

                        Politicians are usually paid for what they do, I speak about volunteer based FLOSS projects. That is something else.

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                          The github coffee thing is nice. There is one little sign who the sponsor is and that is all. You can also opt-out of it unlike at commercial conferences, where every coffee break is sponsored by blabla and it is the only coffee available. Calling that coffee car as sponsored by “big money” is a bit of a stretch (yes github is now owned by MS; but that was not the case the last years).

                          I think github was “big money” even before the aquision, but the free coffee booth isn’t the point. The point I made was that I had the feeling that there is money involved, more than I have had the feeling at, for example, the C3s I have been to.

                          I spend a lot of time with people at work who love the latest hype (blockchain, IOT, kubernetes etc. etc.) and I like fosdem for being everything but that. There is a lot more fringe stuff and the presentations are less of an ego show thatn other tech events.

                          Again, I don’t want to discuss the right of existance of fosdem. There are many nice “fringe” talks and dev rooms there. One could observe that n-gate doesn’t make fun about these, at least from my pov.

                          Also calling somebody who works somewhere a “corporate drone” is not satire, but childish. Is the author 16 and has a Che Guevara poster on his wall, or what?

                          Placing ad-hominem arguments against the usage of ad-hominem arguments doesn’t work.

                          The author started with the ad-hominem, I am calling them out on their bs.

                          I don’t think that it works this way.

                          Politicians are usually paid for what they do, I speak about volunteer based FLOSS projects. That is something else.

                          Ok, lets just take any random group, $FOO, of people who do $BAZ. Someone else, $BAR, will be against $BAZ and makes fun of the random group $FOO. Is it ok for $BAR to make fun about $FOO, or not?

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                    It’s satire. I’m a satirist at work. People will love it, roll their eyes (usually with a smirk), ignore it, or occasionally say “Hey now!” I’m nice enough to keep the last to the minimum since I’m not trying to deeply anger or hurt people. It should be a temporary shock that mostly entertains them when they recognize what I’m doing.

                    The best satire is based on truths that need to be called out. A lot of what he says in that article is true partly or totally. His critiques should provide an opportunity for reflection. He can do it as boring, factual pieces or a humorous style we can make fun of. The latter gets more attention. It’s not boring. It’s also provocative: something shown in psychology to get more attention than being nice due to how primitive parts of human brain work. So, you could say he’s being useful and a dick at the same time. Partly to call out problems. Primarily for his and others’ amusement.

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                      Why is the author so full of hate?

                      Do you really want to know?