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There should probably be a dedicated tag for PowerShell now that it’s multiplatform and becoming more common in the scripting space. The Windows tag isn’t accurate as it’s not necessarily about Windows and it could be code that’s used on both Mac and Linux as PowerShell Core was released. Just doing a simple search for PowerShell will show a load of threads about it, so there’s absolutely a case to be said that they should be categorised as such. I personally want it to find threads related to it easier, but I can just as easily see that people want to filter it out.

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    Maybe a generic shell tag? This would also cover bash, zsh, oil shell, whatnot.

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      I guess that could be a solution, but you would likely end up with people double tagging things with both the usual OS and the shell tag at the same time. And it doesn’t really help with filtering out articles you don’t want. I doubt there are that many users that would want to filter out every single article related to shells. People might however want to filter out PowerShell specifically if that isn’t interesting to them.

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      It looks like it comes up every handful of months. I think it may be too specific a tag.

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        We have a Fortran tag. It doesn’t come up all that often either. How about Illumos? Also a rare tag.

        The point isn’t so much the frequency, rather that there isn’t any other good tags to use for it. Threads about shells commonly used on linux live fairly comfortably in the unix or linux tags for example, but PowerShell isn’t synonymous with Windows, which means the tag doesn’t really work all that well. Sure, a thread might be about doing something with Windows, but that tag is so overloaded with usage that it’s effectively meaningless right now. Being able to tag it as PowerShell + Windows would at least hint about what the thread is about where titles are lacking.

        And just doing a search for PowerShell might miss a lot of stuff that should probably have been tagged with it if they don’t mention it explicitly. I only added it as a way to point out that we have a lot of articles posted already that would have benefited from having a tag on them.

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        I’m for fewer tags, not more. I do not find specificity in tags to be a good thing. For one thing, it encourages more tags to be added, both to the set of tags available and to the number of tags attached to each submission. “Tag soup” on a submission is already an annoying problem.

        Adding more tags just means we have to manage more tags. We have too many tags already, many of which seemed to follow a flurry of submissions at one point (systemd and illumos come to mind, as do all the programming language ones, frankly) which then inevitably tapered off and leaving the tag to essentially become an orphan.

        Personally, I prefer broad topic tags (themes, really). I have not found the addition of more tags to be all that helpful in filtering or discovering content. All it’s done is add more tags to submissions. The propensity to add them has resulted in lots of tags being added that are tangential at best in the hopes of getting noticed or trying to appear relevant. It feels very spammy.

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          For one thing, it encourages more tags to be added, both to the set of tags available and to the number of tags attached to each submission. “Tag soup” on a submission is already an annoying problem.

          It’s only a problem because people don’t understand that it only hurts their post. The more tags they add, the higher chance any of the tags would be filtered out meaning a smaller audience for your post. Accuracy is preferable, and it’s impossible to be accurate with the generic tags we have now.

          Adding more tags just means we have to manage more tags.

          Why do you have to manage them? They are just there to be used on your post and people can vote to add tags if you don’t tag correctly, just like today.

          Personally, I prefer broad topic tags (themes, really). I have not found the addition of more tags to be all that helpful in filtering or discovering content.

          They aren’t there to discover content. They are there to filter content. Be real, if we remove all programming language tags over night and required them to use the programming tag instead, then 50% of all submissions, if not more, would be put in that tag and it would be impossible to filter out content you aren’t interested in.

          Specificity is always preferable in a tagging system, with tags that imply other tags for generality.

          The propensity to add them has resulted in lots of tags being added that are tangential at best in the hopes of getting noticed or trying to appear relevant. It feels very spammy. Again, that only hurts the submission itself. You are more likely to hit a tag that people filter out and your post is effectively hidden for a majority of the site. People using many tags (as long as they are relevant) are actually using the tagging system how it should be used. Real spammers would want to use as few tags as possible to reach a wider audience.

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            The simple answer to your retort, then, is that Powershell just isn’t that important.