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    Their source code is in a git repo, but as a set of patches against releases, which makes contributing to them hard. This is particularly odd given their complaints about the Thunderbird workflow.

    I’d love to see something a bit more explicit about why they feel the need to maintain a fork rather than working with upstream. There are some hints, but a lot of them could be interpreted as ‘we’re a bunch of people that no one wants to work with who are convinced that we’re always right’.

    None of their bug fixes are particularly compelling for me. The things I’d like to see from Thunderbird are:

    • Not periodically freezing on Windows.
    • Never performing destructive operations in response to a key press without a modifier held, so that if it steals focus while I’m typing (ideally, for it not to ever do this) then I don’t do some mailbox manipulation operations and have to figure out how to do them (Apple’s Mail.app on macOS has an undo button for all of these operations and the undo menu tells you what you’re undoing).
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      There is some context about their need to maintain a fork, a link at the bottom of the FAQ. It looks like this is the outcome of some conflict?

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        Heh, wow he even publishes the e-mails from the Thunderbird Council containing the accusations against him (not sure he comes out looking as good as he may think he does there). Tl;dr, he was temporarily banned from participation in Thunderbird for being abrasive, broke the conditions of said ban, then got banned permanently from the entire Mozilla community. He now blames cancel culture.

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          Source: https://betterbird.eu/faq/moz-governance.pdf if you scroll down to the attached Email

          I think the patch-based approach is very brittle. And I’m not sure what to think of such accusations, which are directly related and affecting the project.

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      I’m surprised at the weirdly aggressive tone of this product. It might be better than Thunderbird, but it also tracks the ESR release of Thunderbird and works as a series of patches against it. So they’re still relying on this team that they’re openly mocking to provide all the security and seemingly core functionality of the product. I’m not really sure what the long-term logic of that decision to make fun of the Thunderbird project is.

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        Examples of Betterbird being better:

        Quick Filter untagged messages

        Opening an attachment

        Not sure what they mean by these. I rarely tag, and often filter, and have never had a problem opening attachments.

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          The #1 feature I wish thunderbird had is regex quick filters. The #2 feature is making the “stop filter execution” part of message filters work.