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The other day, I noticed a post on Lobste.rs about @Fat leaving Twitter and I had an immediately negative reaction to the post. I completely support talking about people within the context of their work; but, I don’t see it as a news or discussion-worthy topic that someone left their job (or, in other cases, started a new one).


Good: “@Fat, creator of Twitter Bootstrap, releases _ with his new team at

Bad: “@Fat leaves Twitter.”

If I’m alone on this issue, that’s fine; I just wanted to put it out there and see if there are others in the Lobste.rs community who share my distaste for these types of posts.


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    In my comment on that post, I specifically mentioned that I thought it was news because he handles Twitter bootstrap, which is used by basically everyone. Things that would affect its future are relevant to everyone here.

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      I think that’s fair, Steve; and, I wasn’t intending to single you out or attack you in some passive-aggressive way. That said, I disagree that “basically everyone” uses Twitter Bootstrap; aside from when it was the subject of the “Great Semicolon Debate of 2012,” I didn’t know anyone who knew or cared anything about it.

      While I do understand your motivations, I’d have been much happier seeing a link to a blog post from Fat talking about why he left and what he’s going to do or, even better, a post directly about the future of Bootstrap, than a link to a Tweet saying that he left the building for the last time.

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        No worries, no bad juju here. I considered this exact topic, but decided it was worth posting in the end. We’re all still figuring out what goes here. For example, I had another post get voted down to -1 that I thought was very, very relevant here; I think people just read the title and not the article.

        I don’t think that Twitter will want to blog about ‘the future of Bootstrap now that a creator is gone,’ especially given their new marketing-focused culture. Fat doesn’t blog about this kind of thing at all, he blogs about sweet literature stuff. So I don’t think either of those scenarios are going to come about.

        And I’m surprised you don’t know anyone using bootstrap or any site that uses it; every time there’s a post about ‘my new project’ on HN or Reddit, there’s a whole thread of ‘omg stop it will all the Bootstrap sites already!’

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          I think my lack of exposure comes from revolving in different circles than the typical HN reader; I’m not involved in the startup scene at present; so, I end up with an entirely different perspective on what’s big / important at any given time.

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        While I don’t think every single person of any possible interest who leaves a company is interesting news, this certainly was for exactly what you are stated which is that he handles Twitter Bootstrap. I’m very interested to see what happens with that project.

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        At first glance, you’re correct, I don’t think this is news. Unless I misunderstood the focus of this site.

        I guess it would be news if you were watching the Twitter staff fluctuation to extract a meaningful analysis, or if you wanted to point out that someone was either available for work or starting a new venture.

        That said, I would be curious if Mike Matas were to leave Facebook, or if Doug Bowman left Twitter. I agree that it wouldn’t be full-fledged “news” if the story didn’t include details on what those people were now up to, but I think it’s a relatively fine line between the two.

        And ultimately, in a vote-based system, what’s considered news will rise to the top, whether it fits with top-down preferences or not.

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          I think my point is that if I cared about whether those people had left their jobs or started new ones, I’d be following them on Twitter (or elsewhere) to see that level of update on an individual.

          As far as things rising to the top in a vote based system; that’s somewhat true. However, we can start to set the tone of how these things are perceived by the community as a whole early on.

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          An alternative proposal: we explicitly set ‘person’ as one of the fuzzier tags, allowing for this sort of ‘human interest’ story if tagged with ‘person’, and then (as logged in users) we can avoid that kind of thing with filters by blocking all of the fuzzier tags whenever we don’t want to see ‘human interest’ stories. That kind of tagging would be useful to me, as I have no interest in that kind of post, but a site generally seems to function better if it allows some amount of ‘human interest’ stuff.