?? GitLab is moving from Azure (Microsoft) to Google Cloud, and they’re announcing the unavailability in these places as “because Google cloud”. What’s the difference between Azure and Google?
Azure was available there, even though Microsoft is also a US company?? How?
Microsoft and Google are government level companies; they work with and for governments. That means that sometimes they will have some advantages somewhere and sometimes have to give up some other. Which explains probably the difference between them.
As a Cuban (not living there right now) not really excited with this news. I used gitlab in the past, and still use it right now for personal projects. I experienced something similar with Bitbucket a few years ago, when they went public, at least Gitlab has posted some news about it, Bitbucket closed the access, without any warnings.
I find this to be valuable information. I was not aware that by sharing source code on github/gitlab, I might be excluding people from the listed countries from accessing my code. Similarly, this seems to be relevant news for any lobste.rs users from those countries. (Or does lobste.rs not allow readers from Iran or Cuba itself?)
Certainly labelling this as an “outage” is disingenuous.
A business announcement saying they’ll get some benefits switching cloud providers. People change providers all the time for arbitrary reasons.
A warning about a planned outage of some services during a maintenance window. These are common during big changes. Gitlab’s customers should be following their site for such information.
A reminder some freedom/crypto-hating, police states might block some software (eg theirs). Like they always do.
I agree with friendlysock. Just noise. This prior submission is an example for Gitlab of a write-up with more technical depth that teaches us stuff we might use. That kind of stuff is our differentiator here.
[…] we’d have no time for the sort of content that’s usually here.
I don’t know your perspective of lobste.rs’ typical content, but recently my usual experience here is that whenever I enter a comment thread for a topic that interests me, there is a comment by you claiming that this sort of content doesn’t belong on this site.
We had a discussion to define what the site was about. There were a lot of opinions. I thought friendlysock had the best baseline here. As said in that comment, people wanting those kinds of articles and discussions have plenty of places to get them. Hacker News and Reddit often have the same ones. Lobsters can copycat them with all their strengths and weaknesses or have its own strengths and weaknesses.
We often have more technical depth with low noise here than most other places I see. We occasionally get management, academic, or political stuff that’s actionable with detailed analyses, too. I say we stay on that instead of fluff that other sites have. Even if it’s important to you, it’s redundant: you can just get that stuff from places where it’s already at with Lobsters adding something different to your overall set of feeds.
If you’d like to share with the rest of us in a top-level comment what you found interesting about this submission, I would hope it would generate some positive discussion.
I think the two comments you made here would be better if you had combined them in to a single comment and spent more time describing your claim of this submission being off-topic. I’d also have welcomed you dwelling longer on the quality of the content that’s usually here.
Hm. Azure was available there, even though Microsoft is also a US company?? How?
Microsoft is at government levels, git lab isn’t not.
?? GitLab is moving from Azure (Microsoft) to Google Cloud, and they’re announcing the unavailability in these places as “because Google cloud”. What’s the difference between Azure and Google?
Microsoft and Google are government level companies; they work with and for governments. That means that sometimes they will have some advantages somewhere and sometimes have to give up some other. Which explains probably the difference between them.
As a Cuban (not living there right now) not really excited with this news. I used gitlab in the past, and still use it right now for personal projects. I experienced something similar with Bitbucket a few years ago, when they went public, at least Gitlab has posted some news about it, Bitbucket closed the access, without any warnings.
This is good to know, but having news of outages here is not going to increase the quality of Lobsters.
I find this to be valuable information. I was not aware that by sharing source code on github/gitlab, I might be excluding people from the listed countries from accessing my code. Similarly, this seems to be relevant news for any lobste.rs users from those countries. (Or does lobste.rs not allow readers from Iran or Cuba itself?)
Certainly labelling this as an “outage” is disingenuous.
this isn’t about outages
It three things:
A business announcement saying they’ll get some benefits switching cloud providers. People change providers all the time for arbitrary reasons.
A warning about a planned outage of some services during a maintenance window. These are common during big changes. Gitlab’s customers should be following their site for such information.
A reminder some freedom/crypto-hating, police states might block some software (eg theirs). Like they always do.
I agree with friendlysock. Just noise. This prior submission is an example for Gitlab of a write-up with more technical depth that teaches us stuff we might use. That kind of stuff is our differentiator here.
If a service stops being available it’s an outage–whether due to legal reasons or not.
If we had a submission here every time a law threatened a services availability we’d have no time for the sort of content that’s usually here.
I don’t know your perspective of lobste.rs’ typical content, but recently my usual experience here is that whenever I enter a comment thread for a topic that interests me, there is a comment by you claiming that this sort of content doesn’t belong on this site.
We had a discussion to define what the site was about. There were a lot of opinions. I thought friendlysock had the best baseline here. As said in that comment, people wanting those kinds of articles and discussions have plenty of places to get them. Hacker News and Reddit often have the same ones. Lobsters can copycat them with all their strengths and weaknesses or have its own strengths and weaknesses.
We often have more technical depth with low noise here than most other places I see. We occasionally get management, academic, or political stuff that’s actionable with detailed analyses, too. I say we stay on that instead of fluff that other sites have. Even if it’s important to you, it’s redundant: you can just get that stuff from places where it’s already at with Lobsters adding something different to your overall set of feeds.
If you’d like to share with the rest of us in a top-level comment what you found interesting about this submission, I would hope it would generate some positive discussion.
What did you find interesting about this topic?
I think the two comments you made here would be better if you had combined them in to a single comment and spent more time describing your claim of this submission being off-topic. I’d also have welcomed you dwelling longer on the quality of the content that’s usually here.