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    FWIW, I just switched my servers from Ubuntu LTS to Debian. I had been using both for a long time, and around 2008 I made the jump to Ubuntu because of the LTS lifecycle. I thought that having a company backing would mean more manpower to work on the OS.

    While I recommend it for the desktop user, unfortunately I found some quirks on the server side. Some packages get updated every release without a good upgrade tooling (e.g. migrate configuration, etc). Some are just plain broken and do not start even with a fresh install like Asterisk, a niche but critical app for PBX servers.

    Overall, I started to distrust the Ubuntu upgrade process on the server, so I went back to Debian.

    Sorry, I guess I just wanted to vent a little, but I’m wondering if this has been the case for anybody else? Are you still happily using Ubuntu on the server?

    And a side question: regarding the desktop experience, now there are other distros which aim to be more user-friendly: Mint, Elementary… Has Ubuntu spread its resources too thin between the desktop, server, phone, tablet, IoT, Openstack, etc, at the cost of having many products but no excellent one? What do you think?

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      My feeling is that Ubuntu has lost focus over the past few years. Too many cases of reinventing the wheel (eg, Mir, their various cloud tools that no-one outside the Ubuntu ecosystem uses) and making decisions and then reversing them two years later. For a long time they were leading the “user friendly open source desktop” fight but I think others have now passed them.

      I have no evidence of this other than informal discussion, but I have the perception that Ubuntu server is still popular with those with fleets of 100s/1000s of servers/VMs. Upgrades are less important for that use case (immutable server pattern), so I doubt there will be much of a decline in popularity.

      Personally, my Linux servers have always run Debian - I never liked the Ubuntu main/universe split. Yes, Debian’s release schedule is, well, non existent, but there are ways of mitigating that with relatively low risk. Of all the Linux distros Debian (with all its faults) sits best with me.

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      The […] hypervisor, LXD

      And here I was thinking “hypervisor” had a pretty well-defined meaning. Oh well…just another bit of useful technical terminology lost to the creeping expansion of marketing-speak.

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        The release notes are more relevant for this crowd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YakketyYak/ReleaseNotes

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          Hmh; I think I’ll take it for a spin in a day or two, if only to see how the systemd user sessions work – and to check if the upgrade won’t mess with my zfs-on-LUKS system. :-)

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          I always had very bad experienced with Ubuntu. It was the first non-Windows OS I used (2008) but I found it very buggy.

          Then I tried it again a few years later and it was even worse. A normal update nuked grub and made the system completely un-bootable!

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              Have I mistakenly logged into Reddit again?

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                You’re right, I shouldn’t have made such a lazy comment.