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    its really annoying that a new video card is beyond my budget because of these stupid internet funbux.

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        Hoping I can preorder the 11xx series and avoid the inevitable price surge.

        Else I’ll stick with my 770. Still does pretty well!

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        They mention bitcoin, but can it still be mined with GPUs? I thought after specialized ICs for bitcoin/sha256 appeared, mining it with GPUs became highly unprofitable.

        And if not, are these GPUs used for ethereum? Found this site and I never heard about almost all coins listed there.

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          Ethereum, Monero, etc.

          Everyone just says “bitcoin mining” meaning cryptocurrency mining in general, because “bitcoin” is easy to say and more people are aware of the word I guess.

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            No, it hasn’t been viable to mine Bitcoin with GPUs for a long time. Most newer cryptocurrencies are “ASIC resistant” which essentially means they’re designed so you need a GPU to mine them.

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              It’s correct to put “ASIC resistant” in quotes, because that really only refers to the hash function used by Bitcoin. Any hashing function can be implemented in hardware via an ASIC if the economics motivate it.

              This has already happened with Litecoin and Ethereum, I believe.

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            I haven’t had any problem because I only buy midrange cards and play older games or newer games at lower graphics.

            most graphically demanding games are shallow gameplaywise and I don’t enjoy them as much.

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              Except midrange cards are the best for mining now. RX 580s go for >$500-600.

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                I haven’t had any problem because I only buy midrange cards and play older games or newer games at lower graphics.

                Now, there’s a person whose beaten the system with its unnecessarily-high expectations and forced upgrades. :)

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                We are approaching the far-future sci-fi economy where the primary salable resources are energy and computronium far faster than I thought we would.

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                  Unpopular opinion: Could be seen as a good opportunity to stop “gaming”.

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                    Uninformed question: What’s bad about “gaming”?

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                      I can only really speak from my own perspective, and that is that I regret to have wasted hours upon hours of my life on games, playing them instead of doing schoolwork or learning something productive, and most of the time being frustrated because of them, since I didn’t play them because they were necessary fun, but because they were made to addict people. Since I decided to stop “gaming” (which I radically distinct from playing games from time to time. Being a “gamer” is a commercial identity!), my life has drastically improved. Now my case might not the usual one, but I still argue that less video games would help everyone. I have had friends who socialized to a minimal degree, since for the most part they could just play games, and avoid being human. Furthermore, I’ve experienced games changing the way people concive of their surrounding world, to the worse I believe. In other cases, video games supplement the failures of the predominant worldview.

                      All of these things, not to mention the toxic “gamer “”“community””””, have lead me to have a strong anti-“gamer” stance. I know that most people won’t agree with me, and it would be wierd if they would. Nevertheless, I defend the view.

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                        Depends on what your goals/aspirations in life and how easily the comfort zone of gaming might keep you from achieving them. Many will require hard work or high-friction activities we prefer to avoid. That on top of some dollars that people were about to sink into a high-end, graphics card among other things.

                        If that doesn’t apply, then this supply-side problem is just blocking expanding on a harmless hobby. At that point, next question is whether they can adapt that hobby to not needing a high-end, graphics card still having fun? Or are they a slave to the man only enjoying what comes with mandatory hardware updates? Or could they switch to a different hobby entirely while still enjoying life?

                        Why are some of these gamers so mad about graphics cards if they’re in control of their mind and lives?

                        (Just screwing around. Gamers don’t take me too seriously. Then again, I like building jokes on top of kernels of truth. Hmmmm.)

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                          Sure there are people who escape reality, but I’d think that people with severe problems managing their lives couldn’t afford expensive hardware.

                          Even if they overspend on it, it’s not a problem with games or hardware, those are just substitutes for alcohol or drugs or Instagram or TV or whatever.

                          I haven’t really played shooters or strategy games in a long time, but I’ve understood these games are good for developing reflexes and thinking. As long as they’re not abused like crystal meth.

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                        That’s opportunity to manufacture more GPUs, therefore make them cheaper and improve them further. Games will have benefit from this too.

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                          People who really like games will just not upgrade and deal with it or play old games. Or consoles. Last year I played a ton of games and I don’t have a gaming PC. I played 3DS, Vita, and PS4. Also IIRC none of the currently popular PC games demand a lot of graphical power.

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                          I got a 1080 ti for list shortly after launch. At the time I was kind of ambivalent because I didn’t have a pressing need to upgrade. Can always do it later, right? Probably the only time I can recall where it was better to buy new hardware sooner rather than waiting.

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                            You should mine with that when you’re not using the computer. 1080ti earns about $5/day or more.

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                            I love all the saltiness. I wish the GPU prices would still rise a little bit more so we’d see more bickering.

                            I think the prices keep rising though. Crypto prices are rising and it’ll be profitable to buy those cards off from shelves.

                            There’s hard time seeing how this could be bad except for few PC enthusiasts who end up having to pay a bit more for their hardware in the short term. GPU hardware also faces demand for improvement for general purpose parallel workloads and it cannot happen only within the terms of cryptocurrency mining because the demand it creates can collapse without a warning.

                            Good times ahead.

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                              Consumer pricing news is not really actionable or topical here.

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                                Maybe when the bubble bursts I can pick up a second hand card cheap.

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                                  Just be careful on how it’s been used. If it’s been running 24/7 mining without adequate cooling it may have a limited lifespan.