I put in an online order at a local restaurant for pickup. In the comments I wrote “Embrace whimsy.” When my wife picked it up they all came out of the kitchen to say how much they loved that.
My father worked for Guinness for about 25 years. When I was growing up we had prints of the John Ireland calendar “the gentle art of making Guinness”, a splendid series of cartoons in the tradition of Heath Robinson or Rube Goldberg. Guinness advertising art was great.
But, it’s a mass-produced factory beer. I occasionally like a stout or other dark beer, but Guinness is boring.
Guinness was relatively early in the use of statistical quality control over large scale biochemical processes – that is where Student’s t-distribution was discovered.
I visited a brewery for one of the top 5 beer producers worldwide and the effort and care going into producing a consistent, safe product is impressive. The fact that the product itself is rather bland and boring is incidental :D
I like boring beer. Incoming long defense of Guinness:
I didn’t always used to be like, I used to like hoppy IPAs. But as I’ve gotten older my desire to drink beers higher than 5% has diminished so thoroughly that I can count the number of times I drink one per year on one hand.
I certainly would like to drink more complex stouts, but there are barely any brewed in America with the same ABV. For an example, I went to my favorite local brewery’s website, and Stout was always prefixed with imperial https://grimmales.com/menu/
I can’t drink these! They taste like syrup and instantly give me a headache.
Frankly, my go to beer these days is Asahi. I’m tired of complexity. Beer is less for me about complex flavors and more about refreshment and the desire to relax. In the cases when I want something more complex, I go for a cocktail. I make myself a Negroni or a Campari soda (depending on which side of refreshment and flavor I want).
Anyway. I love Guinness. It tastes good (that is to say it doesn’t taste like piss water), has a low ABV, and is served in basically every bar in Manhattan and Brooklyn. It fits my need
Thanks for saying that. I like it fine if it’s what’s available, but it tastes watered down to me compared to other stouts I’ve grown accustomed to. I’ll take it over something lighter, but it’s fairly plain.
If you’re in the US, be aware that the Guinness product sold as Extra Stout 20 years ago is now known as Foreign Extra Stout. Today’s Extra Stout is watered down in comparison (and undoubtedly cheaper to produce).
As bait-and-switches go, this is mild compared to Newcastle Ale…
I’m with you but would add that it genuinely does taste better in Ireland! To the point that I know some Irish people who will not drink Guinness abroad.
The story goes that this is due to the water but I suspect the truth is that Guinness have a lot of control over how it’s stored and served in pubs (temperature etc). Whether that should matter is an exercise left to personal taste.
I had an Irish colleague in France that spun the theory that French Guiness is a lot less bitter, because locals don’t like it.
He refused it.
My personal take on Guiness: I rarely drink and then I only rarely drink Guiness, so I enjoy it as an easy stout that comes with an expected taste. Sometimes, that’s just what I want.
(Fun fact about me: I do, however, have a taste for alcohol, my first job was sysadmin on a wineyard)
When I visited the Guinness Storehouse in Dublin the advertising floor was definitely the most interesting part. The rest was over the top displays or sections for social media tourism. I have to agree about it being boring, although I’ll often order it if there’s no other stout or porters served.
Also, their book of world records was endlessly entertaining when I was in primary school.
Many years after I tried Guinness (which I still occasionally enjoy, because it is boring in quite a pleasant way) I learned that the thing I really liked about it was that it was always a nitro pour. Seeking out interesting beers (mostly, but not all stouts) served on nitro taps has been fun.
I’m a big fan of nitro coffee! In the before times, I worked once or twice a week in an office that had a nitro cold brew tap in the kitchen, and that was enough to make me look forward to those office days. Come to think of it, everyone (of those who didn’t dislike coffee in general) really loved that perk.
Not a mod, but, I don’t know if there’s a rule for that specifically. That said, I suspect this post is manifestly outside of the “Topicality” guideline: https://lobste.rs/about
That said, it’s already been more than a day and a half, and the post has been flagged several times, so multiple moderators have almost certainly looked at it. And you don’t seem banned yet, so it’s probably fine as long as you don’t make a habit of it. :)
to be honest, I’m not certain - my doctor thinks it’s an immune condition of some kind. I’m allergic to most American staples - eggs, dairy, most forms of gluten, etc. I’ll have to give old speckled hen a try!!
I suspect you’ve probably stumbled on Burning Brothers, and Sociable Ciderwerks; for anyone who hasn’t, there are actually good GF beer/beer-adjacent options these days! ☺
I once visited the Guinness Storehouse in Dublin. There was a tour, it was interesting. However, I will forever regret not asking, facetiously, that since Guinness is brewed under license in other countries (Canada, Indonesia, etc), if the Guinness World Record for most Guinness brewd belong to Guinness or the licensors.
I always buy Bernard when I’m in Czech Republic. Not that we don’t have our fair share of excellent beers in Germany, but those Czech beers are really tasty. In fact Poland and Hungary also have some really good ones.
+1 instead of flagging because the world needs more whimsy right now :)
I put in an online order at a local restaurant for pickup. In the comments I wrote “Embrace whimsy.” When my wife picked it up they all came out of the kitchen to say how much they loved that.
Exactly why I posted this <3
My father worked for Guinness for about 25 years. When I was growing up we had prints of the John Ireland calendar “the gentle art of making Guinness”, a splendid series of cartoons in the tradition of Heath Robinson or Rube Goldberg. Guinness advertising art was great.
But, it’s a mass-produced factory beer. I occasionally like a stout or other dark beer, but Guinness is boring.
Guinness was relatively early in the use of statistical quality control over large scale biochemical processes – that is where Student’s t-distribution was discovered.
I visited a brewery for one of the top 5 beer producers worldwide and the effort and care going into producing a consistent, safe product is impressive. The fact that the product itself is rather bland and boring is incidental :D
I like boring beer. Incoming long defense of Guinness:
I didn’t always used to be like, I used to like hoppy IPAs. But as I’ve gotten older my desire to drink beers higher than 5% has diminished so thoroughly that I can count the number of times I drink one per year on one hand.
I certainly would like to drink more complex stouts, but there are barely any brewed in America with the same ABV. For an example, I went to my favorite local brewery’s website, and Stout was always prefixed with imperial https://grimmales.com/menu/
I can’t drink these! They taste like syrup and instantly give me a headache.
Frankly, my go to beer these days is Asahi. I’m tired of complexity. Beer is less for me about complex flavors and more about refreshment and the desire to relax. In the cases when I want something more complex, I go for a cocktail. I make myself a Negroni or a Campari soda (depending on which side of refreshment and flavor I want).
Anyway. I love Guinness. It tastes good (that is to say it doesn’t taste like piss water), has a low ABV, and is served in basically every bar in Manhattan and Brooklyn. It fits my need
Thanks for saying that. I like it fine if it’s what’s available, but it tastes watered down to me compared to other stouts I’ve grown accustomed to. I’ll take it over something lighter, but it’s fairly plain.
Completely agree about the watered down flavor. The Extra Stout, however, is quite tasty…
If you’re in the US, be aware that the Guinness product sold as Extra Stout 20 years ago is now known as Foreign Extra Stout. Today’s Extra Stout is watered down in comparison (and undoubtedly cheaper to produce).
As bait-and-switches go, this is mild compared to Newcastle Ale…
I still find it funny, that the main UK production plant for Newcastle Brown Ale is on Sunderland.
That was a notorious bit of management fuckery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_indications_and_traditional_specialities_in_the_European_Union#Within_the_European_Union
I’m with you but would add that it genuinely does taste better in Ireland! To the point that I know some Irish people who will not drink Guinness abroad.
The story goes that this is due to the water but I suspect the truth is that Guinness have a lot of control over how it’s stored and served in pubs (temperature etc). Whether that should matter is an exercise left to personal taste.
I hope to put that theory to the test one day!
I had an Irish colleague in France that spun the theory that French Guiness is a lot less bitter, because locals don’t like it.
He refused it.
My personal take on Guiness: I rarely drink and then I only rarely drink Guiness, so I enjoy it as an easy stout that comes with an expected taste. Sometimes, that’s just what I want.
(Fun fact about me: I do, however, have a taste for alcohol, my first job was sysadmin on a wineyard)
When I visited the Guinness Storehouse in Dublin the advertising floor was definitely the most interesting part. The rest was over the top displays or sections for social media tourism. I have to agree about it being boring, although I’ll often order it if there’s no other stout or porters served.
Nothing wrong with mass-produced factory beer. Writing this from Germany and I’m always up for a good Maß of Augustiner.
Also, their book of world records was endlessly entertaining when I was in primary school.
Many years after I tried Guinness (which I still occasionally enjoy, because it is boring in quite a pleasant way) I learned that the thing I really liked about it was that it was always a nitro pour. Seeking out interesting beers (mostly, but not all stouts) served on nitro taps has been fun.
I had never made the connection between the beer and the books before. Thanks!
You should also try nitro (cold brew) coffee. It has that same silky mouthfeel and bitterness. Plus, you can drink it any time of day guilt-free :)
I’m a big fan of nitro coffee! In the before times, I worked once or twice a week in an office that had a nitro cold brew tap in the kitchen, and that was enough to make me look forward to those office days. Come to think of it, everyone (of those who didn’t dislike coffee in general) really loved that perk.
I don’t know about actual lobsters, but I know I do love Guinness :)
I think this should have the tag meta and none or the others. Also an ad for an alcohol company here is against lobste.rs rules overall.
Agree! Looks like our suggestions were applied ;)
Hi, do you have a reference for that, because I did not know that. I’d like to avoid a ban.
Not a mod, but, I don’t know if there’s a rule for that specifically. That said, I suspect this post is manifestly outside of the “Topicality” guideline: https://lobste.rs/about
That said, it’s already been more than a day and a half, and the post has been flagged several times, so multiple moderators have almost certainly looked at it. And you don’t seem banned yet, so it’s probably fine as long as you don’t make a habit of it. :)
🦤Lovely day for a Guiness🦤
sign me up brother love a guinness
We have Guinness to thank for “Student’s” t-distribution and significance test. Cheers!
But, tbh, I don’t much care for their export-grade stuff. Where I live there are much better stouts brewed locally.
I don’t drink, but I support lobsters having a pint.
lets split the g
I live in the pacific northwest and have enjoyed access to incredible beer for over a decade. Guinness to me is still S-tier.
I’m allergic to barley :(
Wheat beer for you then!
i’m also allergic to wheat :(
Is gluten the problem, or something else? My coeliac friend likes a bottle of gluten-free Old Speckled Hen.
to be honest, I’m not certain - my doctor thinks it’s an immune condition of some kind. I’m allergic to most American staples - eggs, dairy, most forms of gluten, etc. I’ll have to give old speckled hen a try!!
I suspect you’ve probably stumbled on Burning Brothers, and Sociable Ciderwerks; for anyone who hasn’t, there are actually good GF beer/beer-adjacent options these days! ☺
All the best,
Thanks, my mom is gluten-intolerant and has often lamented being unable to have a beer anymore.
Wheat beers must have barley as well
Why
Enzymatic power and lautering
I notice that the pint in the picture is full to the brim. Good! If you get a pour that’s a half inch below, the bartender has docked you 10%.
With fish and chips :)
yes
I’m a homebrewer and once in a while i like to brew something similar to Guiness, its a great beer.
Drinking one right now 😎
Big fan of Guinness.
I once visited the Guinness Storehouse in Dublin. There was a tour, it was interesting. However, I will forever regret not asking, facetiously, that since Guinness is brewed under license in other countries (Canada, Indonesia, etc), if the Guinness World Record for most Guinness brewd belong to Guinness or the licensors.
Nah I am much more of a lager guy. I love pilsners, blondes. Stouts really don’t do it for me.
have you tried a black and tan/half and half? delicious w/ a burger
I have not but it does intrigue me! I’m not above trying new beers at all I just know where my preferences lay.
Same. I enjoy a good ale too, sometimes a brown ale. Go much darker than that and it’s pretty unappealing.
Not this lobster. I have celiac disease and Guinness would make me very sick.
rather Radegast, Pilsner Urquell, Budvar, Bernard…
I always buy Bernard when I’m in Czech Republic. Not that we don’t have our fair share of excellent beers in Germany, but those Czech beers are really tasty. In fact Poland and Hungary also have some really good ones.
Not just Guinness, all of Ireland. If I’m not downing a pint, generally its Irish Whiskey :)
I love guiness :) are you from Barcelona?
No, I’m from Bucharest, but I spend around 3 months per year here mostly with work visiting my colleagues at UPC.
Nigerian brewed Guinness is the way to go! Available as ‘Foreign Extra’ where I live