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    I removed a big flamewar here. The useful context here was a comment from @skyfaller that opened:

    It needs to be said that the people behind Soapbox and Spinster are TERFs. Alex Gleason is a TERF, and if I need to I can pull up plenty more receipts, but I’d rather not link to their stuff.

    Then the second part of skyfaller’s comment was about the general state of politics about trans people. We’re not really equipped to host political arguments and one ensued that went poorly, resulting in two bans of users who already had previously been warned about abusive commenting. While I can’t draw a totally bright line here, I’d say it’s useful to contextualize the links we see here, but it’s not useful to litigate arguments that would unambiguously be off-topic if submitted as a top-level story.

    Speaking of which, since I asked for folks to apply to be mods in January I’ve been swamped by a series of personal and family crises. I haven’t been able to finish that process properly (or the database migration to bring back the replies feature). That failure to complete it has been really painful with flamewars that rage or spam that stays up for hours or a day because nobody’s around to help sooner. So I’m going to short-circuit the process I outlined in the mod app post by skipping the testing phase I laid out, talking directly to the couple candidates that seem to be most promising, and hopefully appointing new mods within a week. I’ll try to pick that plan back up next year, but it’s definitely past time I stopped letting perfect be the enemy of good on this one.

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      The main difference seems to be that it uses Soapbox front end by default and the backend has better support for embedding. But, I believe the person who runs the project started spinster.xyz which is one of the largest fediverse servers from what I know. So I guess they just hit a point where they could move faster on their own.

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        It needs to be said that the people behind Soapbox and Spinster are TERFs. Alex Gleason is a TERF, and if I need to I can pull up plenty more receipts, but I’d rather not link to their stuff.

        Now is a really bad time to be a trans person, their basic civil rights are under attack, it’s getting hard for them to use the bathroom (i.e. go outside) or get basic medical care in part because of people like this coordinating harassment campaigns. We really can’t support people who spend their time creating forums to attack trans people, and using or promoting their software is definitely part of that.

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                      That’s sad. I keep seeing Pieroma recommended as an alternative to the bloat and operational complexity of Mastodon but whenever I’ve looked the install documentation is just abysmal.

                      This is such a tricky problem space. I initially had the thought that “Oh hey it’s FLOSS, somebody who wasn’t a hatemonger could fork a new project and inherit their work” but is it fruit from the tainted tree at that point?

                      ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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                        How about Honk instead?

                        Even lighter than Pleroma, and I do not know anything to the author’s detriment.

                        EDIT: Also, someone could do a hard fork of Soapbox, and maybe that would be ok, but this is promoting the project itself, not a hard fork thereof.

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                          Looks neat but… No stars? That’s… Unfortunate. I don’t love the idea of not being able to say “Hey I really like your post!”.

                          I mean, I get it, it removes the whole negative dopamine release loop but… Hrrm.

                          It DOES look deliciously light and easy to set up!

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                            I don’t love the idea of not being able to say “Hey I really like your post!”.

                            You can always say that directly, usually means a lot more than just a number.

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                              You know that’s a REALLY good point.

                              Either you REALLY like the post, which warrants a comment, and might spur some good conversation which wouldn’t happen if you just starred and moved on.

                              I DO think removing that quick dopamine hit from the “like” response could lead to consuming the content in a more thoughtful, meaingful way.

                              I’ll add setting Honk up to my projects list :)

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                                Yeah it’s quite easy, if you use nixOS at all I have a module setup to configure/enable it.

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                                  I’d be interested in that module if you could upload it somewhere

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                                    Yeah sure, let me go paste it to my GitHub.

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                          It’s configuration isn’t great. I have a Dockerfile that runs it and SoapBoxUI:

                          https://github.com/sumdog/bee2/tree/master/dockerfiles/SoapBox

                          Mastodon is easier to scale up with zero downtime releases (you can launch more web or sidekiq containers) but it’s a hog and not as robust at Pleroma. Pleroma has some better rules engines, but they’re more complex to configure. I hope with the SoapBox fork that Alex tries to do standard release containers and make the configuration easier. He’s done a lot of work.