How’s this spam? Just because I wrote it with the intention of folks learning something from it? Lobste.rs is worse than HN, which says quite a bit. :)
I liken it to articles on the best way to get out of speeding tickets, or how to cheat at your taxes without the IRS noticing. Just because you stick a Web 2.0 site in front of it doesn’t make it respectable.
From another perspective, it sounds to me like it’s a matter of ethics, more than spam. Flagging of any information regarding what some may consider an ethical gray area is a pretty shady form of censorship in my view.
I try to help folks who need help rather than keeping the status quo going strong. And boy is it strong these days,especially when it comes to the movie industry.
And even then, it’s not good advice and it shills a service.
How do we know put.io or a VPN isn’t just going to bend to the whim of a letter? A VPN is not a proper substitute for anonymity and privacy on the internet, let alone a service like this. The ethicality and legality is questionable - paying to pirate seems wrong to be. It’s also why Usenet isn’t a good idea for this either, and only contributes to it’s fall.
A more correct (and technically interesting) answer would be something like torrents on I2P. (over Tor, which isn’t as good for this purpose)
Understood. Put.io says they never divulge customer information. But, there’s obviously no way to prove that. So, yah.
I’m not saying this is ideal, but it’s still better than connecting to a public tracker with your ISP provided IP.
I look at it like this:
I’d rather have Put.io terminate my service if they were asked to, and same for a VPN service, than lose my home internet connection.
I have only one choice for an ISP, so I’d be offline forever, unless I moved to another town with more options for internet service.
Not everyone is lucky enough to have a choice for ISP. I’m stuck with Windstream unless I move to a different town.
All it takes is for everyone to use put.io, and then there’d be a single easy target for the MPAA cronies to lean on.
So, a better - more useful - article, at a minimum I think, would be to explain how you can set up your own put.io with your neighbors, so at least there’s not yet-another-corporate-fileserver to contend with, out in the world.
Yes, put.io does seem like a honeypot. Knowing the operators, however, I assure you it’s not.
But that’d mean you’d have to trust what I say, something most users here refuse to do when it comes to any company or individual they perceive to be advertising or spamming.
I simply happen to love the service and have gotten to know the operators.
I updated the post to clarify that your IP can be obtained by law enforcement no matter which method you use. I just can’t fathom that LE would waste time seizing a VPS or Put.io account info, unless you’re a fairly prolific copyright infringer.
But, LE needs to bring money in, so maybe they would go after someone who downloads a few movies. Who knows what various anti-piracy groups are willing to pay LE to track down folks who have downloaed Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star.
Very possible they target small-time pirates, just for the purpose of making examples out of them.
How’s this spam? Just because I wrote it with the intention of folks learning something from it? Lobste.rs is worse than HN, which says quite a bit. :)
Won’t bother you all again, I apologize.
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Absolutely nobody.
I liken it to articles on the best way to get out of speeding tickets, or how to cheat at your taxes without the IRS noticing. Just because you stick a Web 2.0 site in front of it doesn’t make it respectable.
Makes sense.
From another perspective, it sounds to me like it’s a matter of ethics, more than spam. Flagging of any information regarding what some may consider an ethical gray area is a pretty shady form of censorship in my view.
I try to help folks who need help rather than keeping the status quo going strong. And boy is it strong these days,especially when it comes to the movie industry.
Profits > Free Information
And even then, it’s not good advice and it shills a service.
How do we know put.io or a VPN isn’t just going to bend to the whim of a letter? A VPN is not a proper substitute for anonymity and privacy on the internet, let alone a service like this. The ethicality and legality is questionable - paying to pirate seems wrong to be. It’s also why Usenet isn’t a good idea for this either, and only contributes to it’s fall.
A more correct (and technically interesting) answer would be something like torrents on I2P. (over Tor, which isn’t as good for this purpose)
Understood. Put.io says they never divulge customer information. But, there’s obviously no way to prove that. So, yah.
I’m not saying this is ideal, but it’s still better than connecting to a public tracker with your ISP provided IP.
I look at it like this: I’d rather have Put.io terminate my service if they were asked to, and same for a VPN service, than lose my home internet connection.
I have only one choice for an ISP, so I’d be offline forever, unless I moved to another town with more options for internet service.
Not everyone is lucky enough to have a choice for ISP. I’m stuck with Windstream unless I move to a different town.
All it takes is for everyone to use put.io, and then there’d be a single easy target for the MPAA cronies to lean on.
So, a better - more useful - article, at a minimum I think, would be to explain how you can set up your own put.io with your neighbors, so at least there’s not yet-another-corporate-fileserver to contend with, out in the world.
Excellent point. The folks this post was targeted at have no fucking idea how do such a thing though.
Smells like a honeypot. The ideal alternative would be to describe ways that are actually anonymous and private.
Yes, put.io does seem like a honeypot. Knowing the operators, however, I assure you it’s not.
But that’d mean you’d have to trust what I say, something most users here refuse to do when it comes to any company or individual they perceive to be advertising or spamming.
I simply happen to love the service and have gotten to know the operators.
I updated the post to clarify that your IP can be obtained by law enforcement no matter which method you use. I just can’t fathom that LE would waste time seizing a VPS or Put.io account info, unless you’re a fairly prolific copyright infringer.
But, LE needs to bring money in, so maybe they would go after someone who downloads a few movies. Who knows what various anti-piracy groups are willing to pay LE to track down folks who have downloaed Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star.
Very possible they target small-time pirates, just for the purpose of making examples out of them.