If the Ergodox EZ is too big for your hands, like it is for me, but you want a split, ortholinear keyboard, I can recommend the Keyboardio.
I have tried a number of keyboards. I have two Pok3r and an ErgoDox EZ and boy do I not like the ErgoDox. I first got it without the legs and it gets borderline unusable for me. With the legs it is slightly better but reaching all the keys is way too difficult for me. Also, compared to the nicely machined aluminium case of the Pok3r it feels intensely cheap (quite a feat for a keyboard that easily cost 3x as much as the Pok3r). I did like the extreme customization options. Being able to control the mouse cursor was cool and being able to use ‘A’ as control key would be amazing if I had it on my 60% keyboards.
Funnily enough a co-worker asked to borrow the ErgoDox since I just had it in my drawer and a few weeks later he returned it with the comment “oh man, how do I get rid of the ErgoDox set I bought for at home”.
I mostly code with the computer on the desk and the keyboard on my lap, so a split keyboard is not really an option. I tried the Atreus a friend of mine has and to me it seemed amazing. The fact that it is one piece but still ergonomic and ortholinear is really exciting. I really hope I can get around to building one some day. There is an european seller offering nice bamboo cases - turns out I really appreciate solid keyboard cases.
I have an ErgodoxEZ and I can’t believe I haven’t thought to bind the Alt-Tab combo to a single key.
Same for me, this is going in my layout ASAP. Maybe even Ctrl+v as well
Glad you like it :)
I built an Ergodox classic - it was very nice - but something about the layout felt a little rigid - i much preferred my kinesis advantage
I agree about preferring the Kinesis Advantage! I originally bought the Ergodox EZ, and though it was nice, I didn’t find it very comfortable. I ended up buying two Kinesis Advantage 2 keyboards, for work and for home, out of my own pocket. (I’m looking to sell my Ergodox EZ if anyone is interested lol)
Although I’d personally recommend the Kinesis Advantage if you’re looking for comfort, I do have to admit that I missed the additional two columns of keys for my index fingers on the Ergodox. I also miss the ability to map one key to many (like mapping ALT-Tab to a single key, or mapping a super key)
The choice of switches is also much worse for the Advantage; I think there are only two or three middling options.
This whole thread pushed me somewhat into the rabbit hole of reading about keyboards. It appears there is an Advantage-like layout out there now called Dactyl and Xah Lee seems to really like it. It has a later tweaked variant called Dactyl Manuform; I think they both might be interesting esp. to people torn between Ergodox and Kinesis Advantage.
I put together an ergodox classic and immediately fell in love with it. I’ve also got the ergodox infinity and the ergodox ez. One thing I’d recommend is to go with the tent kit for the ez and/or 3d printed tents for the classic. I’ve never found the ergodox uncomfortable, but tents are definitely a welcome improvement.
Nice review! I’m typing this comment on my Model M battleship, but I’m considering an Ergodox EZ (although I don’t really have the money currently)
I have wanted an Ergodox EZ for so long but I can never convince myself it’s worth it from my personal budget. Is there any chance I can ask my boss about it without sounding like a kid who really wants candy?
I mean, it would have been a lot easier had I not already proven that I’m perfectly capable of using regular keyboards…
Depends where you work; it’s not unusual for there to be budget for equipment which would help prevent RSI. Even if you haven’t developed symptoms yet, it’s smart to take preventative steps as it does affect most people in the long run.
I just got an ergodox ez, and… man, I do not like the column layout.
I’m undecided on whether I should attempt to power through what feels like typing through sludge, or if I should just eat the cost of shipping it back :/
Give it at least two weeks. It took me about that long to unlearn my bad habits from decades of typewriter-style staggering, and once you do it’s so much more comfortable.
I might buy that, but even then, I have to/will use other, normal keyboards in the interim.
Yeah, you should give it more time. When I first used the Atreus I was afraid my fingers would break, and was really slow. But that turned upside down when I got more comfortable with. Typing now is faster, more accurate and a lot more smooth then with the classical typewriter layout.
And surprisingly, typing on a normal keyboard is not going to much worse when you get used to ortholinear. Although, for some reason, I mix up ‘c’ and ‘v’ on regular keyboards much more often now.
This is the thing I keep trying to do with my Ergo EZ, I will use it in bursts but then switch back to my staggered so I feel productive. I just need to be super strict for longer and completely embrace it
It took my about six weeks to get used to the ortholinear layout on my DIY board. Now that I am used to it I much prefer it to a normal row staggered keyboard. But it was very much a slog for the first several weeks to a month.
do some typing tutorials / games, deliberate practice
it was very uncomfortable but i got used to it very quickly with a bit of practice
I’m unexpectedly in the process of building the Iris (got some salvage boards from a coworker who was frustrated and couldn’t get them working.) It’s a pretty cool board, less keys than an Ergodox but a similar shape, and relatively inexpensive as these things go.
Also for a more budget friendly split mech kb, I really recommend the Diverge.
The Ergodox’s thumb cluster always seemed a bit much for me.
edit: scratch the “budget friendly” part… the new aluminum diverge is twice as expensive as the old plastic ones
I’m not a fan of the “ricer” look of the Ergodox. The Kinesis Advantage 2 is pretty amazing. Durable, sturdy, ortholinear, programmable and damn comfortable. Seriously love it.
That said, the Ergodox seems to have more customisation options, on top of being open source.