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    Thanks for sharing your findings!

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      I, uh… I don’t want to see programmers when I watch coding videos. I want to see the code.

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        Do you watch coding streams?

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          Sometimes. I find most of them pretty awful. It’s pretty clear in most that people are more interesting in “being like game streamers” than they are about creating valuable content.

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            What do you mean “being like game streamers”? I’m genuinely interested!

            If you have examples of both (good and bad) I’d really appreciate it!

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              I like my coding videos a lot more like you see on egghead or udemy than just a solid unedited recording where you have to sit through every boring real-time minute.

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        Marques Brownlee a.k.a. MKBHD, an early YouTube-famous tech reviewer, did a video several years ago in which he responded to someone asking how to get started making review videos. I can’t find it now quickly, but I’ll bet it’s in a playlist about helping YouTubers.

        In this video, Marques talks about the equipment he used early on. It was some low-end, early model selfie cam that had a decent mic. IIRC, he moved to a nice webcam and a USB mic after a few videos got relatively popular and he developed some fans. It wasn’t until he was at something like 100k subscribers that he bought the really professional equipment to produce the incredibly high-quality videos he’s now known for and he’s upgraded a lot since then. I think he’s using a RED camera nowadays and that’s out of reach for just about anyone not making a living from the content they produce and living well off it.

        This article is good. It lists some great, high-quality equipment. Frankly, as someone who streams talks online and ran an online conference in 2020, it makes me salivate to have had the budget for it for myself and all of my presenters.

        However, that equipment comes at a significant price. This is a setup to build up to, not one to get started on. If you want to get started livecoding, get a $40 Blue Snowflake USB mic, use your crappy built-in camera or buy anything you can find right now (Goodwill?), and start producing quality content. The audio is important but webcam video isn’t. It’ll be 240-360 pixels high at the most in your stream! Once you realize you enjoy livecoding or you’re gaining followers to put you on a trajectory to make some money from it, then enjoy your $500 mic and mixer setup, studio lighting, and prosumer DSLR camera with amazing bokeh.

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          It’s a hobby. Do I need to make money from it to make a setup I enjoy?

          What to do with my photo hobby then? It’s been dead for some time, but before that I’ve spent 4x on a nice camera (Fuji X-T1, which I mention in article) and for a few years enjoyed making photos a lot. Made zero cents on that, even spent some on Flickr Premium…

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          This is just a bunch of product reviews.

          Also, it’s a little weird seeing somebody drop hundreds of dollars in kit without even knowing what they’re gonna be streaming.

          Finally…when the hell did we get to this coding as performance art thing? This dramatization and theatrical approach just runs me the wrong way. When did we decide that production value and presentation matter more than, you know, awesome or useful or clever code?

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            Finally…when the hell did we get to this coding as performance art thing? This dramatization and theatrical approach just runs me the wrong way. When did we decide that production value and presentation matter more than, you know, awesome or useful or clever code?

            This is cynical and unfair. The two don’t have to be mutually exclusive.

            With all that’s going on in the world these days, let’s not let the nihilists win.

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              This is just a bunch of product reviews.

              I’m sorry you feel that way, I tried to write down most of the things I learned from watching countless youtube videos (since this stuff is rare to read in written form), but I guess it’s not perfect… But really, try to forget you read that and go buy a setup. What do you buy? How do you even put a camera on your desk?

              Finally…when the hell did we get to this coding as performance art thing? This dramatization and theatrical approach just runs me the wrong way. When did we decide that production value and presentation matter more than, you know, awesome or useful or clever code?

              When I was 20-ish years old, I was sure that good code and great functionality is all that a world needs. And look at me now! I’m using Ecamm Live, because interface of OBS is ugly. Design and experience and marketing are crazy important.

              Also, it’s not a performance art in my case, I’m just doing the usual stuff I do, but I hate those videos where you sound like a dying dog inside of a steel pipe filmed through a peephole. Honestly, I’m not doing that just to fill YouTube servers with useless data, I hope some people will watch that stuff — and nobody will watch low quality content. Nobody watches it right now, actually, hahaha. :))

              Also, it’s a little weird seeing somebody drop hundreds of dollars in kit without even knowing what they’re gonna be streaming.

              Do you have a car? :) When I sold my Z4 after owning it for 20 months — and I bought it really cheap — I calculated it costed my $550/month. My brother’s WRX amortized over 6 or 7 years and after selling turned out to be $400/month. I mean that little hobby is just peanuts compared to what cars cost. And I knew I’m going to stream! I had no idea if it’ll make any sense or if I’ll like it, but that’s another thing, right? You won’t know without trying. Also, now my Zoom game is over the top, which I just love. :-)

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                Well, for most of us, $550 is a (good chunk of) rent/mortgage. I’m fortunate enough to be able to live without a car, but for many people it’s a necessity - that I’m sure most try to keep well under $550/month, and $300 on a hobby we’re not sure about also isn’t going to happen :)

                So, I admit to being icked out as well. Your story contains a lot of product photos, even of things you didn’t buy, so it looks a lot like an advertorial. It’s only the lack of affiliate links that makes me realize it’s not.

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                Finally…when the hell did we get to this coding as performance art thing?

                If someone would have told me 2 years ago that one of my current favorite ways to spend my time was to watch people playing video games on Youtube, I’d have laughed in their faces.

                Turns out, if you find the right “content creator”, it’s actually very nice!

                Now, I don’t watch coding streams, but I’ve seen it become a thing online, and I figure, these people are enjoying it, their finding an audience, what’s the harm?

                Now, this particular post might be off-topic for this site, but that’s a separate issue from the phenomenon of coding streaming in general.