I got briefly excited about this, but every argument from that thread about the dangers of closed-source terminals (as well as the long-standing arguments about the dangers of closed-source software in general) still applies. Apparently it sends telemetry to the company that makes it. It’s also mac-only, which makes it useless to me.
I was curios how many apps “call home” on my Android phone, so I install a small app that creates a Virtual VPN (in a lack of a better description) and logs whatever apps are making network calls. I was surprised to see that even my custom keyboard was calling home… It’s everything nowadays.
I don’t understand why xterm (or terminal.app, or whatever) isn’t enough.
It’s exceedingly rare that I ever have a problem with xterm, and if I do it’s because I was doing something stupid, like cat extremely-large-file.
I get that Warp is “solving” a collaboration problem, but I also don’t see how a git repo with well documented scripts (in whatever language) can’t do the same.
Maybe I’m just an old man yelling at clouds though.
How do they plan to actually produce money with a terminal for when the pay-day comes?
I wondered the same thing, especially after I read their job posting where they said the quiet thing out loud: “We believe there is an opportunity to build a unicorn-sized business improving the command-line” (emphasis mine).
Certainly, some people who create and work on software tools make some money. (I bet some people even make a living doing it.) People paid for licenses to Textmate, and I suspect that many people support iTerm, for example. But a “unicorn-sized” terminal app?
Here’s one guess at their hoped-for endgame: they make enough noise that Apple buys them and Warp becomes the new Terminal.app. (I don’t think that’s likely, but I can imagine that as a pitch.) Another guess is that they hope Microsoft buys them, and they become a GitHub-sponsored tool like Atom. All that said, I’m with you: I don’t see a big exit for them.
I tried the beta of this, and … I guess it would be fine, if I expected my terminal emulator to work like an IDE, but I don’t. I expect it to behave like a terminal emulator. I found warp just got In my way every time it tried to “help” me.
I still have a hard time to getting used to URLs being clickable
in my terminal, but this made me even less interested in
Warp. Aside from all the other red flags, that is.
Getting rightfully shredded as closed-source spyware over at HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30921231
Also being prodded for using the name “Warp” (the name of a popular crate) and also trading on Rust’s name for marketing.
Yea they are roasting the CEO alive and rightfully so.
Previously: https://lobste.rs/s/a235fs/warp_terminal_emulator_review
I got briefly excited about this, but every argument from that thread about the dangers of closed-source terminals (as well as the long-standing arguments about the dangers of closed-source software in general) still applies. Apparently it sends telemetry to the company that makes it. It’s also mac-only, which makes it useless to me.
they’ve come for the terminals now? sigh. why should a terminal emulator call home?
I was curios how many apps “call home” on my Android phone, so I install a small app that creates a Virtual VPN (in a lack of a better description) and logs whatever apps are making network calls. I was surprised to see that even my custom keyboard was calling home… It’s everything nowadays.
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I have most of these features in fish with the default config. Seems weird to use a terminal for not configuring the shell.
I don’t understand why xterm (or terminal.app, or whatever) isn’t enough.
It’s exceedingly rare that I ever have a problem with xterm, and if I do it’s because I was doing something stupid, like
cat extremely-large-file.I get that Warp is “solving” a collaboration problem, but I also don’t see how a git repo with well documented scripts (in whatever language) can’t do the same.
Maybe I’m just an old man yelling at clouds though.
I understand the product is VC founded. How do they plan to actually produce money with a terminal for when the pay-day comes?
Also who would invest in a terminal for the 21st century?
I wondered the same thing, especially after I read their job posting where they said the quiet thing out loud: “We believe there is an opportunity to build a unicorn-sized business improving the command-line” (emphasis mine).
Certainly, some people who create and work on software tools make some money. (I bet some people even make a living doing it.) People paid for licenses to Textmate, and I suspect that many people support iTerm, for example. But a “unicorn-sized” terminal app?
Here’s one guess at their hoped-for endgame: they make enough noise that Apple buys them and Warp becomes the new Terminal.app. (I don’t think that’s likely, but I can imagine that as a pitch.) Another guess is that they hope Microsoft buys them, and they become a GitHub-sponsored tool like Atom. All that said, I’m with you: I don’t see a big exit for them.
I tried the beta of this, and … I guess it would be fine, if I expected my terminal emulator to work like an IDE, but I don’t. I expect it to behave like a terminal emulator. I found warp just got In my way every time it tried to “help” me.
I still have a hard time to getting used to URLs being clickable in my terminal, but this made me even less interested in Warp. Aside from all the other red flags, that is.