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    Not to be that guy, but they didn’t list FastMail under GMail alternatives. I’ve used FastMail for a while, and it’s pretty cool. It’s also been around for a pretty long time, which makes me feel better.

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      I have to say that it is not necessarily Email that I am after when it comes to Google alternatives. Email, after all, is one of the most insecure communications types in use (emails are stored on a server operated by people who are often unknown and untrusted to the user, they are often passed around between servers without encryption).

      Upgrades to email are either not on point in terms of security, or inconvienient e.g. PGP has several key shortcomings 1) ugly 2) malicious “man in the middle” option, and confusing key exchange rituals and 3) people don’t really bother about [their] human rights.

      Perhaps a new communications standard e.g. Bitmessage or something else will come up that can prove that it can improve the situation and kill email.

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        I’m using mailbox.org.

        Unfortunately, a while ago they killed their email support for non-business customers.

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          mailbox.org is listed as a Google Calendar alternative but not e-mail, interesting. Are you satisfied with mailbox.org? I’m tempted to switch from fastmail.

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            From the top of my head:

            • SMTP works as expected
            • don’t know how other services (CalDAV, XMPP etc.) work, because I don’t use them
            • the web interface is unusable without JavaScript enabled
            • all mails sent to @secure.mailbox.org will need to be delivered via TLS
            • API is not available for non-business customers
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              Been on mailbox.org for about a year, so far very happy. Particularly nice that I can have a shared calendar with my wife.

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            +1 - their web interface is excellent and doesn’t hate partially blind people, and they’re super interested in standards compliance. Big fan.

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            I normally use the awesome-selfhosted and PrivacyTools lists as starting points when looking for self-hosted options/alternatives to Google et al.

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              Google Blogger alternatives – WordPress, Medium, and Ghost are all good options.

              No, they are not good anything

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                What’s wrong with wordpress?

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                  Yeah, I have the same question. If you say “security” then you can use wordpress.com and let them handle that for you, and also, if you’re dilligent about it, it’s such a well trod path you can secure your site pretty thoroughly if you’re on top of it.

                  Not everyone wants to use a static site generator.

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                    I might have been hasty in judging all three of these with the same cloth. I’ve never heard of Ghost and only have a slightly negative opinion of Wordpress. My judgement was perhaps clouded by my immense hatred for Medium – the fact that it is recommended here makes me skeptical of all of these recommendations.

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                      /s ?

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                        We as a community can do better than this kind of response. Why not communicate what you think is wrong with Wordpress, instead of questioning the motivations of the person asking a question?

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                          Wordpress is a good option if you host it yourself. Medium is an abomination these days. I never used ghost.

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                            I don’t see the problem with using wordpress.com either - At any time you can export to a self hosted instance trivially. I know everyone here feels super strongly about self hosting, and there’s a lot of wisdom in that, but some of us lack the hours in the day to properly secure and maintain a Wordpress site, or to tackle the extra necessary steps to do static site generation.

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                              I’m especially happy to pay wordpress.com because that’s what funds development - I know several automattic employees who are essentially paid to work on wp-core fulltime, and I’m personally extremely happy to support that arrangement (see also: fastmail and their work on Cyrus imap).

                              I own the domain; I own the data. I don’t need the headache that comes with actually running the thing if I can port to another host easily.

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                                Precisely! I think people are going a bit too overboard with the “SELF HOST ALL THE THINGS” - the important thing is data ownership and mobility.

                                I ran my own WP instance for years, and did a crappy job of it, and got owned pretty hard.

                                Not everyone wants the part time job of owning server resources. It’s admittedly gotten a LOT easier but I’m still much happier outsourcing this particular thing - just like I outsource my mail to Fastmail. I ran a mail server for years and years as well, but again - a part time job I don’t need.

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                                  This is also my bugbear with mastodon. Federation is great, but most of the new users don’t own the domain their account is at, nor hold the keys used to authenticate posts as theirs.

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                      I really need to give Startpage a serious try. I switched to DuckDuckGo for 2 months a ways back and it just didn’t do what I needed. I ended up having to fallback to !google 3 out of 4 times, and I just don’t have time for that kind of hit/miss rate.

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                        They didn’t list Zoho as an alternative to Gmail. I think it’s pretty decent, their product suite is quite extensive, and you can easily pop in a domain name. I guess it’s a bit more oriented towards small to medium size businesses than to private individuals.