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      If I wasn’t so invested in the Apple ecosystem, Elementary would be the obvious choice for me as the distro I’d want to run on my main computing machine.

      I’m hoping it’s still around so it can be the first OS I can set up for my kiddo.

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      Still no icons on the desktop …

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        What do you mean “still”? This is obviously a design decision, not just something they couldn’t yet find time to get to.

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          They’re onto something. My Mac desktop is perpetually full of random disorganized files that I occasionally dump into “old” folders, creating sediment layers of garbage.

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            It’s one of those things that either work for you or they don’t. And it looks like there’s enough people in both camps to not let there be one correct solution.

            My desktop is basically a temp/work/todo space with a handful of things that never get out of control. A matter of habit.

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              Yeah, I really hate the forced no-desktop design of some DEs (GNOME & Pantheon). Why can’t they just have an option to enable/disable the desktop like in Windows? I also like to drag temporary files to my desktop and I pretty consistently tidy them up. I find not being able to use a desktop really hinders my workflow

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              It’s one of those things that either work for you or they don’t.

              Funny that you say that. I used to be 100% strict “desktop is clean and minimal” for like 20 years, and only in the last few years it’s been a dump of temp things and screenshots. Only on Windows (private, games) though, where I don’t have a shell open all day like on a work machine

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            I like to make the desktop icons uncomfortably large. It motivates me to clean them up.

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              On the first of the month, I try to go through and clean up my desktop, downloads folder, and tabs. It’s better than before but still inconsistent.

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          For a desktop system that seems the most stupid decision you can make …

          I have tried to put elementaryOS on my buddy’s laptop - he really liked it but really missed the icons on the desktop - so I installed caja and thunar to enable them by hand. The whole ‘experience’ went to trash as caja or thunar ‘desktop icons’ are not well integrated into elementaryOS DE …

          I have put Ubuntu Mate with ‘Cupertino’ layout to him instead and e could not be happier.

          I am not a ‘target’ for elementaryOS so I do not care that much but IMHO they lose a lot of ‘typical’ desktop users that have used icons on the desktop since decades.

          Just my $0.02 here.