Threads for Biganon

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    I used Arch for years, even before they switched to systemd. I find it a little too hand-holdy now. I use NixOS, by the way.

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      I think it says a lot about both Arch and Nix that I legitimately have no idea whatsoever if you’re being serious or trolling.

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        NixOS users are the vegans of the family

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          As a vegan, I resent this. I never talk about being vegan unless someone asks. Or to take a shot at NixOS users apparently.

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            If food comes up, I tell people. I don’t try to preach to people, but I’ll engage (to some extent) when asked. I do not engage when people ask questions such as “what do you even eat?” or when people are just being dicks about it—not usually worth it.

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            Are you saying NixOS is trendy and less cruel, and better for the environment?

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              They are probably saying there’s a stereotype of many vegans being absolutely insufferable to be around with, and vilifying anybody that isn’t a vegan. At least in my experience that stereotype (unfortunately) has some truth to it.

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                It’s not vegans in general, it’s PETA. PETA knows that they can’t convert anyone who isn’t 95% of the way already, so their strategy is to remain in the public eye through shock marketing, on the “all publicity is good publicity” theory.

                I know lots of vegans who never say anything about other people’s food choices, and only mention their own choice when it comes up.

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                  How do you tell if someone’s vegan?

                  Say “Look, I’m happy to make vegan entrees, sides, and desserts for the party, but you have to tell me now, instead of three hours in when I see you aren’t eating anything and ask if you’re okay.”

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                    I was a vegetarian for 20 years, including when I met my wife. My wife was never vegetarian but she doesn’t eat cheese.

                    We visited a friend and found that they had made a three part pizza for the evening: one part with pepperoni and cheese, one part with cheese but no pepperoni, and one part with pepperoni but no cheese.

                    We were very grateful but a bit embarrassed by the effort on our behalf.

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                      If it helps, they probably saw it as a chance to challenge themselves. Or a chance to flaunt their cooking skills. I def feel both when cooking for restricted diets

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                  There’s not the same moral dimension to Nix, compared to veganism; people who don’t use Nix are not somehow morally deficient or inappropriate. The main reason that we share Nix is to ease the suffering of users, not the suffering of computers or packages.

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                    Yeah. I get it. This is me not being confused, and deflecting this stupid comparison.

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                    Given your homepage declares your veganism in its second sentence, I don’t think you can feign too much indignation about the grandparent jibe.

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                      Huh? I live a vegan lifestyle, yes. Do you have a problem with that?

                      Jesus. Mechanical engineers are insufferable.

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                        You announce you’re a vegan. That’s literally the reason for the “btw, I’m vegan/arch user” joke. There’s nothing wrong with that, but as you can see the stereotype matches reality.

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                          They announce it on their webpage… that you chose to go and read…

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                            I am fully aware.

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                        If you’ve used NixOS, you’ll know less cruel doesn’t apply

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                          It’s been a long time, but I gave up pretty quickly. 😀

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                    This article is absolute garbage full of both factually incorrect statements (there is absolutely nothing about functional programs that prevent you from having ad-hoc polymorphism, and in fact ad-hoc polymorphism is heavily used in both haskell (typeclasses) and rust (traits), neither of which are traditional OO languages). Although he acknowledges that his arguments are overly reductive, I see absolutely no reason to forgive it given that the dimensions he chooses to reduce the argument to are boring and uniformative, and his conclusion bland. This guy is a misogynist with nothing useful to contribute to the field of software engineering and is best left alone to howl in obscurity into the silence of history.

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                      there is absolutely nothing about functional programs that prevent you from having ad-hoc polymorphism

                      He says exactly that.

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                      I wrote an article about TLDs that serve web content. It’s in French, but you’ll find the domain names: https://www.simonjunod.ch/projets/webtld/