Threads for ChrisShort

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    ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 7 months ago | link | on: How do you sync code between personal machines?

    Gitea (locally), GitHub/Lab, and if it’s not git, I try to use rsync or a cloud file store (Gdrive, S3, etc.)

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      ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 8 months ago | link | on: What are you doing this weekend?

      Just did it because I woke up early.

      I’ll be being a dad, relaxing, reading, watching football, and writing a newsletter

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        JamieTanna avatar JamieTanna 9 months ago | link | on: Thoughts on a job/pay history page on website?

        I’ve found that posting mine publicly (https://www.jvt.me/salary/) has been hugely beneficial, both for me and to make it more visible to others what they should be asking for. No negatives found as part of the recent job hunt, either

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          ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 9 months ago | link

          I feel like I’d need to check in with my spouse on this because the downside is every marketing and credit firm could find your salary history and target you as such. For example, just working at a big tech company gets me a lot of messages from money managers.

          I love the idea of it and routinely tell folks in private what I make so they can negotiate better. I might at least create a harder to find page of it (thinking of a static page with appropriate headers and some tighter controls via CDN). I’m just not sure I want the things I literally block with DNS to have that data and want to try to figure out a way to prevent that.

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            sebastien avatar sebastien 9 months ago | link

            Thanks for sharing!

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              JamieTanna avatar JamieTanna 9 months ago | link

              You’re welcome! I save others’ I come across at https://www.jvt.me/tags/salary/ - got a few folks in the UK who’ve done it off the back of mine which is nice ☺

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              rustybolt avatar rustybolt 9 months ago | link

              You were earning more or less minimum wage when you started at Intel?

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                JamieTanna avatar JamieTanna 9 months ago | link

                Yep, as an intern, salaries aren’t great. At least we get paid in the UK, but it ain’t much 😅 ended up being the same amount (minus cost of living) as my student loan

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                  rustybolt avatar rustybolt 9 months ago | link

                  Ah, OK, just skimmed over it and I didn’t see you were an intern then :)

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                    david_chisnall avatar david_chisnall 9 months ago | link

                    Is that pro-rated? That looks to be in the right ballpark for what we pay for a three-month internship. The equivalent annual salary is four times that. Interns in the US are generally paid more but when I was at the university of Cambridge it was pretty common that PhD students who went on internships would earn more than their supervisors for the three months of the internship.

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                      JamieTanna avatar JamieTanna 9 months ago | link

                      Sorry by intern I mean a year long placement student. So yep, that was the salary across the year, not based on just a summer 🙃

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                ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 1 year ago | link | on: What is your oldest living presence on the World Wide Web?

                My 18 year old personal web site.

                It used to be for an old dial up ISP that I worked at in the 90s that hadn’t shut down their site from ‘98. But, I linked to it in my newsletter once and then influx of traffic must have been odd and they finally killed the spot.

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                  schmudde avatar schmudde 1 year ago | link

                  Boooooo. Did Internet Archive manage to capture it before it went down?

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                    ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 1 year ago | link

                    I’m certain it did. But, it’s down right now. But now I feel like I need to capture that history somehow.

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                  ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 2 years ago | link | on: How do you document and track your personal goals?

                  I don’t set goals aside from, do the best I can do for whatever opportunities land in my lap. Then I document successes. Most of the things I want to do involve travel so this is the new norm.

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                    ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 2 years ago | link | on: What RSS reader/aggregator do you use?

                    I pay for Inoreader and it is worth every penny. I couldn’t run a newsletter with it.

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                      ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 2 years ago | link | on: Meta: could we consider banning self-promotion?

                      So… I ask a friend to post something for me?

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                        ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 2 years ago | link | on: What storage platforms do you use to for pictures or storing family stuff

                        iCloud. I pay for a server and backups or pay someone else.

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                          ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 2 years ago | link | on: What software do you dream about, but do not have time to do yourself?

                          A feed reader that can process thousands of feeds and filter up the news I find important or read worthy.

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                            ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 3 years ago | link | on: Which Atom/RSS reader do you use?

                            Huge shoutout for Inoreader

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                              pushcx avatar pushcx Sysop 3 years ago | link | on: Mitigating Content Marketing

                              This is the complete list of domains where a user’s next submission could be blocked for having a majority of submissions from them. It’s a little close to being a worst-of list I don’t like to share queries of (especially where the submitters column is 1…) but I wanted to include it as a list of examples of content marketing.

                              MariaDB [lobsters]> select domain, count(*) as submitted, count(distinct stories.user_id) as submitters, (select count(*) from stories s where s.domain_id = domains.id group by s.user_id order by 1 desc limit 1) as from_one_submitter from domains join stories on domains.id = stories.domain_id group by domain having count(*) > 5 and (from_one_submitter + 1) * 2 > count(*) order by 2 desc;
+-------------------------------------+-----------+------------+--------------------+
| domain                              | submitted | submitters | from_one_submitter |
+-------------------------------------+-----------+------------+--------------------+
| blogs.msdn.microsoft.com            |       206 |         36 |                132 |
| jvns.ca                             |       159 |         36 |                 80 |
| blog.netbsd.org                     |       126 |         13 |                 85 |
| css-tricks.com                      |       116 |         15 |                 86 |
| developer.telerik.com               |       113 |          5 |                101 |
| codewithoutrules.com                |        93 |          2 |                 92 |
| righto.com                          |        91 |         19 |                 64 |
| flippinawesome.org                  |        90 |          2 |                 86 |
| phoronix.com                        |        85 |         31 |                 44 |
| oilshell.org                        |        83 |          4 |                 80 |
| devblogs.microsoft.com              |        75 |         20 |                 42 |
| spin.atomicobject.com               |        74 |         20 |                 39 |
| blog.softwaremill.com               |        73 |          4 |                 55 |
| lemire.me                           |        72 |         22 |                 45 |
| ponyfoo.com                         |        68 |          5 |                 64 |
| mail-index.netbsd.org               |        61 |          5 |                 44 |
| citusdata.com                       |        60 |         10 |                 41 |
| alistapart.com                      |        58 |         14 |                 45 |
| hillelwayne.com                     |        58 |          3 |                 56 |
| smashingmagazine.com                |        57 |         17 |                 33 |
| dailydrip.com                       |        55 |          4 |                 39 |
| vermaden.wordpress.com              |        55 |          2 |                 54 |
| vuejsdevelopers.com                 |        52 |          1 |                 52 |
| schneems.com                        |        50 |          6 |                 45 |
| eev.ee                              |        49 |         17 |                 31 |
| crate.io                            |        48 |          2 |                 47 |
| driftingruby.com                    |        48 |          1 |                 48 |
| bendyworks.com                      |        46 |          8 |                 25 |
| petecorey.com                       |        44 |          2 |                 43 |
| codepen.io                          |        42 |         14 |                 21 |
| kev.inburke.com                     |        42 |          5 |                 38 |
| imaginarycloud.com                  |        41 |          3 |                 39 |
| zwischenzugs.com                    |        41 |          5 |                 36 |
| intoli.com                          |        40 |          3 |                 28 |
| pythonspeed.com                     |        40 |          1 |                 40 |
| ma.ttias.be                         |        39 |          7 |                 30 |
| pdfs.semanticscholar.org            |        39 |         11 |                 24 |
| fsf.org                             |        38 |         15 |                 20 |
| tboox.org                           |        38 |          1 |                 38 |
| mattwarren.org                      |        37 |          5 |                 31 |
| nanxiao.me                          |        37 |          2 |                 36 |
| daringfireball.net                  |        36 |         11 |                 24 |
| christophermeiklejohn.com           |        35 |          4 |                 32 |
| dolphin-emu.org                     |        35 |          6 |                 24 |
| filfre.net                          |        35 |          9 |                 25 |
| 250bpm.com                          |        34 |         12 |                 22 |
| blogs.gnome.org                     |        34 |         16 |                 17 |
| christine.website                   |        34 |          2 |                 32 |
| newrustacean.com                    |        34 |          1 |                 34 |
| tech.marksblogg.com                 |        34 |          3 |                 32 |
| flak.tedunangst.com                 |        33 |          6 |                 28 |
| kevq.uk                             |        33 |          2 |                 32 |
| os2museum.com                       |        33 |          7 |                 26 |
| pixelstech.net                      |        33 |          2 |                 30 |
| stackbuilders.com                   |        33 |          5 |                 17 |
| blog.ikura.co                       |        32 |          2 |                 30 |
| blog.logrocket.com                  |        32 |          6 |                 22 |
| blog.runnable.com                   |        32 |          4 |                 22 |
| craigkerstiens.com                  |        32 |          8 |                 22 |
| deliberate-software.com             |        31 |          4 |                 27 |
| promptworks.com                     |        31 |          4 |                 27 |
| bravenewgeek.com                    |        30 |         10 |                 21 |
| drmaciver.com                       |        30 |         14 |                 16 |
| beza1e1.tuxen.de                    |        29 |          4 |                 26 |
| bluishcoder.co.nz                   |        29 |          6 |                 24 |
| neo4j.com                           |        29 |          6 |                 16 |
| solipsys.co.uk                      |        29 |          5 |                 24 |
| blinkingcaret.com                   |        28 |          2 |                 27 |
| joezimjs.com                        |        28 |          1 |                 28 |
| geeklan.co.uk                       |        27 |          1 |                 27 |
| interrupt.memfault.com              |        27 |          2 |                 26 |
| victorzhou.com                      |        27 |          2 |                 26 |
| blog.mariusschulz.com               |        26 |          3 |                 21 |
| davidgerard.co.uk                   |        26 |          1 |                 26 |
| gigasquidsoftware.com               |        26 |          2 |                 21 |
| gkbrk.com                           |        26 |          2 |                 25 |
| jeremymorgan.com                    |        26 |          2 |                 25 |
| saturnflyer.com                     |        26 |          2 |                 25 |
| sicpers.info                        |        26 |          5 |                 21 |
| blog.higg.im                        |        25 |          1 |                 25 |
| pragtob.wordpress.com               |        25 |          1 |                 25 |
| raganwald.com                       |        25 |         12 |                 13 |
| telerik.com                         |        25 |          2 |                 21 |
| hoelz.ro                            |        24 |          1 |                 24 |
| metaredux.com                       |        24 |          3 |                 22 |
| nedbatchelder.com                   |        24 |          7 |                 17 |
| netbsd.org                          |        24 |          8 |                 13 |
| osnews.com                          |        24 |          6 |                 18 |
| raymii.org                          |        24 |          3 |                 22 |
| verisimilitudes.net                 |        24 |          2 |                 23 |
| about.sourcegraph.com               |        23 |          5 |                 15 |
| arp242.net                          |        23 |          9 |                 14 |
| blog.jle.im                         |        23 |          7 |                 13 |
| blog.pragmaticengineer.com          |        23 |          4 |                 20 |
| blog.sqreen.io                      |        23 |          3 |                 21 |
| dragan.rocks                        |        23 |          3 |                 18 |
| ecc-comp.blogspot.com               |        23 |          2 |                 22 |
| parsonsmatt.org                     |        23 |          5 |                 19 |
| bitemyapp.com                       |        22 |          3 |                 19 |
| cambus.net                          |        22 |          3 |                 20 |
| tedium.co                           |        22 |          8 |                 13 |
| blog.takipi.com                     |        21 |          6 |                 10 |
| brooker.co.za                       |        21 |          9 |                 11 |
| carlchenet.com                      |        21 |          2 |                 20 |
| beastie.pl                          |        20 |          1 |                 20 |
| kanoki.org                          |        20 |          2 |                 19 |
| lethain.com                         |        20 |          8 |                 11 |
| modernweb.com                       |        20 |          2 |                 18 |
| wilfred.me.uk                       |        20 |          4 |                 15 |
| blog.ably.io                        |        19 |          4 |                  9 |
| blog.codeship.com                   |        19 |          8 |                  9 |
| blog.dantup.com                     |        19 |          1 |                 19 |
| blog.floydhub.com                   |        19 |          6 |                 14 |
| blog.graphqleditor.com              |        19 |          2 |                 13 |
| blog.testdouble.com                 |        19 |          7 |                 10 |
| ops.tips                            |        19 |          2 |                 17 |
| people.eecs.berkeley.edu            |        19 |          9 |                  9 |
| shape-of-code.coding-guidelines.com |        19 |          8 |                 12 |
| sigusr2.net                         |        19 |          2 |                 18 |
| sourcegraph.com                     |        19 |          6 |                 10 |
| testdroid.com                       |        19 |          2 |                 17 |
| wyeworks.com                        |        19 |          4 |                 12 |
| blog.bitsrc.io                      |        18 |          6 |                 13 |
| michaelochurch.wordpress.com        |        18 |         10 |                  9 |
| monades.roperzh.com                 |        18 |          1 |                 18 |
| patshaughnessy.net                  |        18 |          7 |                 11 |
| raphlinus.github.io                 |        18 |          5 |                 13 |
| stratus3d.com                       |        18 |          2 |                 17 |
| yegor256.com                        |        18 |          8 |                 10 |
| amir.rachum.com                     |        17 |          2 |                 16 |
| blog.hboeck.de                      |        17 |          5 |                 13 |
| blog.packagecloud.io                |        17 |          5 |                 12 |
| doxsey.net                          |        17 |          2 |                 16 |
| fluentcpp.com                       |        17 |          4 |                  8 |
| jackhiston.com                      |        17 |          2 |                 16 |
| jezenthomas.com                     |        17 |          2 |                 16 |
| jlongster.com                       |        17 |         10 |                  8 |
| oshug.org                           |        17 |          1 |                 17 |
| ponylang.org                        |        17 |          4 |                 14 |
| prathamesh.tech                     |        17 |          1 |                 17 |
| silvestarbistrovic.from.hr          |        17 |          1 |                 17 |
| talospace.com                       |        17 |          2 |                 12 |
| virtuallyfun.com                    |        17 |          6 |                 10 |
| wordsandbuttons.online              |        17 |          5 |                 13 |
| 256kilobytes.com                    |        16 |          3 |                 14 |
| bfilipek.com                        |        16 |          4 |                 10 |
| blog.carlosgaldino.com              |        16 |          2 |                 15 |
| blog.jessitron.com                  |        16 |          6 |                 10 |
| blog.librato.com                    |        16 |          3 |                 11 |
| brianmckenna.org                    |        16 |          3 |                 14 |
| coolcoder.in                        |        16 |          2 |                 13 |
| ds9a.nl                             |        16 |          5 |                  9 |
| fitzgeraldnick.com                  |        16 |          4 |                 13 |
| fsharpforfunandprofit.com           |        16 |          8 |                  9 |
| itsfoss.com                         |        16 |          5 |                  9 |
| lauradhamilton.com                  |        16 |          1 |                 16 |
| microservicesweekly.com             |        16 |          1 |                 16 |
| notamonadtutorial.com               |        16 |          1 |                 16 |
| objective-see.com                   |        16 |          6 |                 11 |
| omgubuntu.co.uk                     |        16 |          7 |                 10 |
| aiprobook.com                       |        15 |          1 |                 15 |
| blog.asrpo.com                      |        15 |          1 |                 15 |
| blog.cubehero.com                   |        15 |          1 |                 15 |
| blog.drewolson.org                  |        15 |          6 |                  9 |
| blog.garage-coding.com              |        15 |          1 |                 15 |
| blog.jakubarnold.cz                 |        15 |          2 |                 14 |
| blog.jonlu.ca                       |        15 |          2 |                 13 |
| blog.scottnonnenberg.com            |        15 |          2 |                 14 |
| boxbase.org                         |        15 |          3 |                 12 |
| cmcenroe.me                         |        15 |          1 |                 15 |
| degoes.net                          |        15 |          7 |                  7 |
| dev.theladders.com                  |        15 |          1 |                 15 |
| geshan.com.np                       |        15 |          3 |                 13 |
| jozefg.bitbucket.org                |        15 |          8 |                  7 |
| oshogbo.vexillium.org               |        15 |          3 |                 12 |
| thefullstack.xyz                    |        15 |          1 |                 15 |
| vaibhavsagar.com                    |        15 |          6 |                  9 |
| well-typed.com                      |        15 |          6 |                  9 |
| zendev.com                          |        15 |          1 |                 15 |
| alexkyte.me                         |        14 |          2 |                 11 |
| bitquabit.com                       |        14 |          4 |                 10 |
| blog.jcoglan.com                    |        14 |          8 |                  7 |
| blogs.technet.microsoft.com         |        14 |          6 |                  8 |
| chrisshort.net                      |        14 |          2 |                 13 |
| clever-cloud.com                    |        14 |          4 |                  8 |
| csswizardry.com                     |        14 |          4 |                  9 |
| dustycloud.org                      |        14 |          4 |                 11 |
| haiku-os.org                        |        14 |          5 |                 10 |
| hardenedbsd.org                     |        14 |          2 |                 13 |
| hypothesis.works                    |        14 |          5 |                  9 |
| ithare.com                          |        14 |          5 |                 10 |
| jepsen.io                           |        14 |          3 |                 12 |
| jugad2.blogspot.com                 |        14 |          1 |                 14 |
| juxt.pro                            |        14 |          4 |                  7 |
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| orbifold.xyz                        |        14 |          2 |                 13 |
| paperswelove.org                    |        14 |          6 |                  7 |
| paragonie.com                       |        14 |          4 |                 10 |
| penguindreams.org                   |        14 |          1 |                 14 |
| sethvargo.com                       |        14 |          2 |                 13 |
| tiny-giant-books.com                |        14 |          1 |                 14 |
| videlalvaro.github.io               |        14 |          3 |                 11 |
| yodaiken.com                        |        14 |          3 |                 12 |
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| blog.learngoprogramming.com         |        13 |          1 |                 13 |
| blog.ploeh.dk                       |        13 |          7 |                  7 |
| boston.conman.org                   |        13 |          2 |                 12 |
| defn.io                             |        13 |          1 |                 13 |
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| getstream.io                        |        13 |          2 |                 12 |
| hookrace.net                        |        13 |          8 |                  6 |
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| bloomca-me.github.io                |        11 |          2 |                 10 |
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| svnweb.freebsd.org                  |        10 |          4 |                  6 |
| tenfourfox.blogspot.com             |        10 |          2 |                  7 |
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                                jfo avatar jfo 3 years ago | link

                                I am 100% on board with mitigating content marketing (especially the egregious examples you provide) but yeah… I’m uneasy about this as an active member of the community whose own blog appears on this list because it’s one of the only places I submit links to. I visit lobste.rs almost every day and appreciate that so many of the links are relevant to my interests and especially that the front page is slow moving enough that I can actually keep up with it, but I don’t submit many stories other than my own posts, and this list makes me feel like that’s not a welcome pattern. I appreciate that it is pretty close to the behavior of a self promoter (though I guess it is in a way, but I am not selling anything, I just happen not to have much else to show). This leaves me with four options, if and when I start actively blogging more (which is something I would like to do soon, and also the reason I’m commenting):

                                1. start submitting more posts I didn’t write to offset those that I did.
                                2. only submit my own posts when they’re extra special by some metric or another
                                3. get other people to submit my posts
                                4. don’t submit my posts

                                1 seems spammy af, 2 is a little weird but maybe the right answer (I would prefer just to submit everything and let the algorithm sort through them, where the algorithm is people’s eyes… tbh this is sometimes an HN strength, as you’re not guaranteed a front page land there and even if you get it, it fades quickly.)

                                3 is just gross, and 4 bums me out.

                                also it just makes me feel bad that I fall in this bucket I guess. Is “lurker who submits their own work from time to time” just doomed to be bucketed with “content marketing garbage spam”?

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                                  pushcx avatar pushcx Sysop 3 years ago | link

                                  I’m sorry I made you feel bad, and I agree these are all bad choices. Your posts are certainly welcome, and folks up and down this thread are already brainstorming ways to fix it.

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                                    nil avatar nil 3 years ago | link

                                    Maybe there should be a separate page on Lobsters for bloggers to submit an RSS/Atom feed! That way regularly blog content can be labeled separately, and vetted for quality of the blog itself, rather than the person/people submitting it to Lobsters.

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                                      wink avatar wink 3 years ago | link

                                      I certainly don’t want to have a whole RSS feed autoposted here, but I’m not saying your idea is bad - something along the line of a moderation queue for whole RSS feeds for stuff that >50% gets posted anyway is something to think about.

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                                        calvin avatar calvin 3 years ago | link

                                        I think jcs experimented with adding Planet-style aggregation years ago.

                                        FWIW, this assumes 100% of the blog’s posts are in scope, and someone needs to clean up titles/tags, sometimes add context.

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                                      hwayne avatar hwayne 3 years ago | link

                                      So three questions:

                                      1. What’s the average upvote score for articles from these sites? What about average upvote score for the articles submitted by the majority submitter?
                                      2. How much content marketing stuff from dev.to, hackernoon, and medium is not on here?
                                      3. How many of the majority submissions are from authors? Like I’d guess a lot of stuff from blogs.msdn.microsoft.com is from people who specifically are looking for interesting articles from there while everybody else isn’t.

                                      (Disclaimer I’d really like to keep posting stuff from my site, but if the rest of the majority-things are by content marketers then it’s still worth it overall. Also, I think I’m well-known enough that other people would probably post stuff from my site anyway.)

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                                        wezm avatar wezm 3 years ago | link

                                        What’s the average upvote score for articles from these sites? What about average upvote score for the articles submitted by the majority submitter?

                                        I think this is a key detail. I don’t self-submit often, but the 12 posts I have submitted over 2 years have generally been well received. I’d say the same goes for you. Well received self-submissions are something we don’t want to discourage. If someone is self-posting and the posts are not getting many votes then it seems more likely they should be subject to the post limit.

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                                          technetium avatar technetium 3 years ago | link

                                          I agree with corporate-operated blogs in this list, but I don’t understand the presence of private blogs such as jvns.ca or Daring Fireball. Those blogs usually have high-quality content (in my humble opinion) and I’ve never seen any form of content marketing on those websites (I could be wrong though).

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                                            wink avatar wink 3 years ago | link

                                            I think Daring Fireball is such an outlier, isn’t it like one the top 3 most-read sites with a 100% Apple focus anyway? I’m not using any Apple stuff, but I can’t help but getting the news anyway - and I personally don’t like reading it.. but I think it’s very often news-heavy and we don’t so many “New product by X” posts here, for a good reason.

                                            Yes, Apple is a bad topic for me to comment, but Daring Fireball is not a personal blog anymore. He’s one of the major Apple-ecosystem influencers and pundits. This is 100% a business website by now.

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                                            foob avatar foob 3 years ago | link

                                            I also think this would be a useful component to include. My domain falls on the list, and I’m a bit sad to see my domain on the list. It’s technically content marketing, but I put a massive amount of effort into each post and the content is generally very well received both here and on Hacker News. I would understand the decision to block it, but I think that taking the average submission rating into account would still address the problem without eliminating content that is a good fit for the site. This also incentivizes people to only submit their best content.

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                                              pushcx avatar pushcx 3 years ago | link
                                              1. Averages are misleading because of site growth over time. (Related)
                                              2. A significant amount. (Related)
                                              3. Feels like most, but this a trickier query than I have spare brainpower to write. I worry that it would incentivize not checking that box because it’d be subtle and deniable.
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                                              yumaikas avatar yumaikas 3 years ago | link

                                              Is there anything we could do in terms of vetting a user? For example, as far as I am concerned, @andyc, @akkartik and @hwayne all submit rather high quality content from their own blogs, I’d rather not miss them.

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                                                cadey avatar cadey 3 years ago | link

                                                This just struck me when I was trying to submit my Nix rebuttal post.

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                                                  tiniuclx avatar tiniuclx 3 years ago | link

                                                  That’s a shame… I’ve always enjoyed your posts on christine.website and I think it would be a real loss if your website were to be blocked.

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                                                    cadey avatar cadey 3 years ago | link

                                                    Apparently it’s going to be fixed and this was just an extreme over-reaction. I’m still gonna post though :)

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                                                  colindean avatar colindean 3 years ago | link

                                                  15 of the top 30 in this list are sites that I probably actively visit when they’re linked from Lobste.rs and otherwise don’t visit. Excluding them may surface less popular content but it would also seem to reduce the visibility of content that I’ve come to trust and want to get from Lobste.rs. 7 of the next 20 are in that same bucket, so penalizing by this metric would inhibit submissions 44% of the top 50 domains considered content marketing.

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                                                    SoapDog avatar SoapDog 3 years ago | link

                                                    @pushcx, thanks for all the hard work on the site. I really appreciate this site a lot. Now, I’m a bit offended to be included in this list. I’m a web developer and volunteer for some FOSS communities, I have a low traffic blog and every now and then I share some of my blog posts here. Not all of them, just the ones I think have value for users here. I’m not selling anything on this site, and my blog posts are not related to anything I sell.

                                                    If this website is going to be hostile to blogs with such low traffic as mine with very few posts per month, about 500 users per month, then I think this site loses a ton of value. Not because they will be missing me but because the criteria that includes me and my site here, will also include lots of other minor bloggers. No one is posting my posts here because I don’t have a large number of readers, I’m probably faster to share content than some hypothetical reader.

                                                    Seriously, scanning this list I can see many blogs I actually subscribe and that provide me with good content, not upselling anything. I don’t think this metric is a good way to filter who you want to filter. What this metrics leads to is that only content from domains that are so popular that a ton of people repost content from them will end up in this site. This is not only an echo chamber that makes whatever is popular, more popular. But also gatekeeping small people who just want share their own story every now and then, and will prove that the blogosphere is dead since we can’t share blog posts.

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                                                      inactive-user avatar inactive-user 3 years ago | link

                                                      As Lobster’s is my primary article discovery site, I’m a bit worried that this change will cause me to miss great articles because the author couldn’t post it, and they don’t have other avenues / connections to get it noticed (read: they suck at marketing, don’t have an RSS / atom feed, etc).

                                                      I typically self submit (I’m on the list here) and sometimes it gets upvoted, sometimes it doesn’t. I kind of thought that was the purpose of votes, and flags, and such, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

                                                      At least this change creates a new “market.” We can create a voting ring of sorts that keeps track of their submissions to certain domains and nominates someone to submit queued up links. The list of domains above is a good seed list of potential members, too….

                                                      I should probably just go back to over subscribing to RSS / Atom

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                                                        ignaloidas avatar ignaloidas 3 years ago | link

                                                        Could you run this query? I’m not entirely sure it’s correct, but it should sort by the percentage of single user submissions.

                                                        select domain, count(*) as submitted, count(distinct stories.user_id) as submitters, (select count(*) from stories s where s.domain_id = domains.id group by s.user_id order by 1 desc limit 1) as from_one_submitter, (select count(*) from stories s where s.domain_id = domains.id group by s.user_id order by 1 desc limit 1)/count(*)*100 as submited_by_one_percentage from domains join stories on domains.id = stories.domain_id group by domain having count(*) > 5 and (from_one_submitter + 1) * 2 > count(*) order by 5 desc;
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                                                          pushcx avatar pushcx 3 years ago | link

                                                          Looks correct to me. Results.

                                                          (I put the original list in a comment because I saw it as central to the discussion, so I didn’t want it on free hosting even though I don’t have a convenient place to indefinitely host a small static file attached to Lobsters.)

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                                                          parsonsmatt avatar parsonsmatt 3 years ago | link

                                                          I was a little worried to see my name On A List, and also a little flattered to know that my blog was getting so many posts from here. I had to look into who was doing all the posting, and, well, maybe you ought to watch out yourself ;)

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                                                            inactive-user avatar inactive-user 3 years ago | link

                                                            TIL I’m a content marketer, alongside such evil spammers as the Free Software Foundation and Hillel Wayne! And the tell was that I used federated blogging technology—my own article feed at my own domain, integrated into the fediverse via RSS—rather than high-quality centralised platforms like Facebook notes or Medium.

                                                            Unfortunately, I’m really bad at content marketing. I tend to publish articles that explore ideas about software that I (and others, mercifully) find interesting, rather than SEO-first eyeball scrapers. I forgot to monetise with affiliate content, adverts, store links, or anything. Nobody even clicks the tip jar button on the site.

                                                            I guess I need to find a community where us “Badly-marketed Low-value Output Generators”, or “BLOGgers”, can share, discover, and comment on each other’s posts without disrupting those people who are focused on consuming Medium-rate content. Preferably with a focus on programming, just because that is the niche vertical I have chosen to exploit with my rational-minded acquisitive process. Does anyone know where that community hangs out?

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                                                              trousers avatar trousers edited 3 years ago | link

                                                              Maybe copy query output to a gist or nopaste and link it?
                                                              I found it hard to read due to line wrapping. :/

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                                                                ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 3 years ago | link

                                                                Wow… Okay. Did this site just become hostile to its users? My site is on the list.

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                                                                  pushcx avatar pushcx 3 years ago | link

                                                                  No.

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                                                                  aerique avatar aerique edited 3 years ago | link

                                                                  First of all, thanks for the good work. Now, since you invite:

                                                                  kibitzing about particulars

                                                                  and pointing out false positives. I expected @ahu’s site to be on there and it is[1], since one of his stories got moderated in a way I disagree with. (And I see other sites that I think are high-quality, but I’m happy to also see a lot of low-quality sites on the list.)

                                                                  Having said that, if you look at his submissions you’ll see that it is mostly geeky stuff so I would rather classify him as an author than a content marketeer. He is a geek and happens to be a pretty good writer. His last article on Huawei, 5G and Europe has been doing some good rounds on Twitter (I won’t link to it directly but search for “5G: The outsourced elephant in the room”).

                                                                  The only thing he perhaps went overboard with is the DoH centralization by Firefox on Cloudflare, which is an item we (PowerDNS) are pretty concerned about, but not for business reasons as implied by its proponents. Hell, we live in The Netherlands and couldn’t care less if we get fired or not since we got actual social security.

                                                                  [1] ds9a.nl, but I didn’t expect blog.powerdns.com to be there as well

                                                                  disclaimer: I’m a PowerDNS employee and ahu was my ‘boss’

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                                                                  ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 3 years ago | link | on: What is your preferred web traffic analytics platform?

                                                                  I absolutely cannot speak more highly about Fathom Analytics and how happy I am to pay for their service. $14/mo and a code snippet. I use it on all my sites and they’ve added goals and code to enable metrics around funnels. It’s really good. Here’s a demo for my newsletter’s web site (static; Hugo): https://app.usefathom.com/share/acmuyzfw/devopsish.com

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                                                                    danielrheath avatar danielrheath 3 years ago | link | on: DNS hosting

                                                                    Cloudflare are free and fast, management interface is good, api is good.

                                                                    There’s a certain amount of controversy about them as a business, though (hasn’t stopped me using their free stuff).

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                                                                      ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 3 years ago | link

                                                                      I use Cloudflare for DNS only these days. Hard to beat their their network for latency. I’ve used he.net, Route 53, Google Cloud DNS, and others and I come back to Cloudflare before too long for one reason or another.

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                                                                      ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 3 years ago | link | on: What are you doing this weekend?

                                                                      Prepping for KubeCon

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                                                                        shawn avatar shawn 3 years ago | link | on: 'Everyone Should Have a Moral Code' Says Developer Who Deleted Code Sold to ICE

                                                                        Today’s “This post has no technical merit whatsoever and is pure politics” goes to… this one.

                                                                        I think pushcx is gonna come in and give all of you a spanking if you’re not careful with the kind of stuff you keep pushing to the front page. Important story? Yes. Interesting? Yes. Technical? No. Lobsters material? No.

                                                                        (ง’̀-’́)ง

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                                                                          chobeat avatar chobeat 3 years ago | link

                                                                          The possibility of concerted deletion of repositories by unionized/mobilized tech workers is also a very actual technical problem. I’m not suggesting you should prepare your company to avoid it, quite the contrary, but you know, it’s also a technical problem. It’s also an interesting techinical problem to identify the most disruptive packages that fuel the systemic exploitation performed or enabled by tech companies.

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                                                                            nickpsecurity avatar nickpsecurity 3 years ago | link

                                                                            I didn’t think about that. Great point. This…

                                                                            “ I’m not suggesting you should prepare your company to avoid it, quite the contrary”

                                                                            There’s at least two groups in the anti-politics-on-Lobsters crowd:

                                                                            1. Those that genuinely don’t care about it or don’t think it matter.

                                                                            2. Those that want it somewhere else so this site is more relaxing or focused on just tech.

                                                                            The folks in number 1 could use a reality check like what you said. Hell, a bunch of open code not getting supported all at once might even lead to companies actually paying people to maintain the F/OSS. There’s precedent for it where a few projects that were about to go under had large infusions of cash. So, I suggest these developers at companies with piles of money just keep pretending politics doesn’t matter. Or, even better, unionize. :)

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                                                                              halfmanhalfdonut avatar halfmanhalfdonut 3 years ago | link

                                                                              I fall into group 2. Politics are an extremely volatile subject and can be incredibly divisive. I would rather not have these types of arguments here. It often derails into something totally unrelated to the original post.

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                                                                                chobeat avatar chobeat 3 years ago | link

                                                                                Why are those two things negative?

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                                                                                  halfmanhalfdonut avatar halfmanhalfdonut 3 years ago | link

                                                                                  I think I expressed exactly why I think those two things are negative in the previous post. But to try to make it more clear in case you’re sincere, talking politics, especially online, usually descends into name-calling, absolutes, and ultimately derails the conversation from the original post.

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                                                                                    chobeat avatar chobeat 3 years ago | link

                                                                                    That is true only for toxic communities. While I agree that’s the case I many environments, I don’t see why it should happen here.

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                                                                                      friendlysock avatar friendlysock 3 years ago | link

                                                                                      Have you considered that the lack of toxicity of Lobsters is due to discouraging political discussions?

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                                                                                        chobeat avatar chobeat 3 years ago | link

                                                                                        I don’t see why it should be the case. I believe it’s more about the relative small size of the community, the invitation mechanism and the general structure of the interaction that keeps the level of the discussion highm

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                                                                                          inactive-user avatar inactive-user edited 3 years ago | link

                                                                                          I don’t see why it should be the case.

                                                                                          Politics, in every way I’ve seen it discussed on the Internet, enhances the boundaries between tribes even more than they already are. As far as I can tell, we humans aren’t very good at rising above our tribes, especially when it comes to politics. This seems to apply to everyone, regardless of political leanings (although I find those of the left to be the most vocal about it). Tribalism makes it more difficult to have good faith discussions with each other. Even on technical topics, we have our tribes, which makes it hard enough as it is. Politics enhances those tribal boundaries and magnifies the bad blood that comes from it.

                                                                                          It is perfectly reasonable to see how this leads to a community that is unpleasant to participate in for all but the most determined among us. These difficult discussions need to happen somewhere, but it is perfectly reasonable for a group of people to endeavor to avoid the toxicity that comes from this enhanced tribalism in some places. In particular, it is totally reasonable for a group of people to enjoy the privilege of discussing topics other than politics purely so that they might do it at all in a productive fashion. Personally, I see this as the reality that comes from discussing extremely divisive topics that effect us all in profound ways. I continue to hope that lobsters will be one of those places.

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                                                                            nickpsecurity avatar nickpsecurity 3 years ago | link

                                                                            All of our current moderators plus the majority of voting Lobsters are in favor of political or other-wise human elements of tech being discussed here. I’m not sure why a few of you keep writing like they don’t exist or that they believe otherwise. You can’t convince anyone of anything by starting from a position that ignores their existing beliefs.

                                                                            The truth: you, a minority of voters, and I want Lobsters to be tech only with political stuff handled on other sites. The majority does not. It doesn’t even hurt me to say it. It’s the natural progression of sites that start like Lobsters Classic, grow toward Hacker News or Reddit, and eventually toward Youtube or Twitter. Politics and noise grow exponentially with those that don’t like that ignoring/filtering it, splintering off into new places, etc. Lobsters still does it better than most places, though.

                                                                            And although they profess politics top priority, the submissions and comments are 90+% not politics to focus on their favorite tech subjects. What actually matters to them. There’s one or two people whose submissions line up with their stated, political priorities. So long as the politicos don’t practice what they preach there will be mostly non-political tech stories here and I’ll continue enjoying the site. Case in point: 2 out of 25 stories on front page are political despite all those votes for political content being more important, long-winded posts of importance of social justice, etc. Just a whole bunch of slactivists [1]. Don’t let them worry you.

                                                                            [1] There’s a few actual activists and folks that stay aiding others who are too busy doing the real thing to submit the stuff here. I always make an exception to that comment for them. I’ve been in that lately as a union guy in a company likely going to strike soon. Getting reluctant people ready for the mental and financial hardship.

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                                                                              shawn avatar shawn edited 3 years ago | link

                                                                              I agree with you that it’s a natural progression of sites. I’ve seen it twice: first on Reddit, then on HN.

                                                                              And the options are to stay silent and give the impression that no one cares, or to speak out. It’s important to speak out, if for no other reason than to stave off the decline for longer.

                                                                              Also, thank you for your thoughtful comments on this. I feel like a lot of people would rather yell about what they want than analyze the situation. (I regrettably fall into the former category more often than I should.)

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                                                                                nickpsecurity avatar nickpsecurity 3 years ago | link

                                                                                You’re welcome and it’s all good. I just like reminding folks on my side to remember how large the pro-politics side is on top of how long we’ve been doing political discussions. If folks don’t, it might offend those that might have listened.

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                                                                              ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort edited 3 years ago | link

                                                                              This is why I don’t frequent Lobsters as much.

                                                                              Edit: To be clear, it’s shawn’s position as to why I don’t frequent Lobsters as much. Sorry, the lines crossed and will forever be after 2016. Welcome to the reality a lot of us have been in for a while.

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                                                                                WilhelmVonWeiner avatar WilhelmVonWeiner 3 years ago | link

                                                                                You don’t frequent it because there’s not enough politics?

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                                                                                  ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 3 years ago | link

                                                                                  There’s not enough of a realization or acceptance by the audience that their code has implications beyond their systems.

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                                                                                    Vaelatern avatar Vaelatern 3 years ago | link

                                                                                    What if I’m totally ok with building weapons?

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                                                                                      ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort edited 3 years ago | link

                                                                                      I’m cool with that. I’m a veteran, I did some things while I was in that I’m not proud of in light of information released after I got out. I’ve been there.

                                                                                      Edit: spaces Edit edit: I did really in English, I swear.

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                                                                                      cgag avatar cgag 3 years ago | link

                                                                                      Everyone realizes this.

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                                                                                        WilhelmVonWeiner avatar WilhelmVonWeiner 3 years ago | link

                                                                                        You don’t frequent it because there’s not enough politics?

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                                                                                        chobeat avatar chobeat 3 years ago | link

                                                                                        I for sure would frequent it more if there was more politics. Speaking about tech without discussing its politics is like discussing swimming pretending water doesn’t exist

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                                                                                    ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 4 years ago | link | on: Terminal/IDE background colour?

                                                                                    Solarized Dark. I used to tweak it a little but now I just run with the default. One change I do maintain is a jet black terminal background though. It’s nice to have that solid indication that you’re at the shell.

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                                                                                      verisimilitude avatar verisimilitude 4 years ago | link | on: No Medium Build Your Own Site, Please

                                                                                      I agree with others here that it’s really a bad idea to use any of these services. The best option is to purchase a domain name and then point it towards hosting, be it a full server rental (This is what I use.), which also permits easily branching out to hosting one’s own email and other services, or merely paying for a less in-depth host that simply gives you a place to store things away in and run some scripts.

                                                                                      Still, if one insists on neither of these good options, why not use something such as https://neocities.org/ , which I’ve seen no issue with over its existence? If there are disadvantages with it that aren’t the obvious lack of control, do tell.

                                                                                      As for learning HTML and whatnot, don’t many word processors permit exporting to HTML, nowadays? I don’t see how people can complain on one hand that there’s too much garbage floating around and, on the other hand, argue that people should be able to write for such mediums without actually learning anything related to what they’re publishing on. Now, the WWW is a set of garbage protocols and it’s only going to get worse until it collapses under its own weight or becomes unrecognisable, but even old authors learned about printing and typesetting and whatnot when controlling how their works were published when reviewing and whatnot.

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                                                                                        ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 4 years ago | link

                                                                                        Full server rental?!? And other folks are complaining Hugo is too complex for day-to-day use. The modus operandi of the industry cannot be, “if you don’t have a server, you don’t have an online presence.” Even as easy as that is these days that’s a high bar to cross for many.

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                                                                                        coderpath avatar coderpath 4 years ago | link | on: No Medium Build Your Own Site, Please

                                                                                        What’s been the appeal of Medium? I don’t understand why so many people switched o to it. I must be missing something.

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                                                                                          inactive-user avatar inactive-user 4 years ago | link

                                                                                          The reading experience didn’t used to suck. Also, it has a built-in monetization system.

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                                                                                            ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 4 years ago | link

                                                                                            “Built-in monetization system” aka you work for them now.

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                                                                                          ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 4 years ago | link | on: No Medium Build Your Own Site, Please

                                                                                          I should point out, GitLab has a WebIDE that is actually decent: https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/user/project/web_ide/

                                                                                          If you wanted a front end that might do for some folks.

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                                                                                            gcupc avatar gcupc edited 4 years ago | link | on: No Medium Build Your Own Site, Please

                                                                                            I like the idea of having a landing page that lays out the basic reasons not to use Medium. When I shared this on the fediverse, I got this comment:

                                                                                            text with contrast ratio 1.88

                                                                                            i like the idea, but…

                                                                                            You might consider modifying the theme to use a pair of foreground/background colours selected from https://botsin.space/@accessibleColors. Maybe this one.

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                                                                                              ChrisShort avatar ChrisShort 4 years ago | link

                                                                                              I really need to fix this. Spelunking CSS to follow… If you don’t hear from me by morning, send help.