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    Is that just a website with only a tweet or is my browser going mad?

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      It has a canvas above the tweet that presumably requires JS to be seen.

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      Just a link with a link to an executable. That’s it.

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          $200 per month in recurring costs at the end. Not bad if you’re running a business, but otherwise pretty steep for home use.

          But I guess for home use you might as well keep the computer running 24/7… in your home.

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            But I guess for home use you might as well keep the computer running 24/7… in your home.

            Pretty much what I do, in conjunction with wireguard (proxying from a $5 VPS).

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              You may want to proxy from a free oracle VPS instead (10TB transfer/month) https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/#always-free

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                What are they getting out of it?

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                  Your contact details, to sell to marketers.

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                  Oh wow thank you for linking this, seems like a great offer. Might make me actually stop paying for hosting completely.

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                    You become the product there though

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                      I recently signed up for one, to use as a secondary VM. For an “always free” plan, that’s sure an excellent offer, assuming they don’t change their mind abruptly one day.

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                        they wouldn’t do that, it says “always” right on the box

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                  One (potential) downside of hosting out of your home is running into your ISP’s AUP (Acceptable Use Policy). Sometimes these outright forbid hosting any servers. But even for those that don’t forbid such acts, they usually have clauses that forbid serving material that is not illegal but is simply indecent, racist, or defamatory. It could prove challenging to remain in compliance if you host a site with user-generated content where even a small number of users are inclined towards posting such things.

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                    Add a jump host somewhere on the net (eg. some $5/month OVH system) that routes all connections through a VPN (or Tor to an onion service, which would make it harder for the provider to tell your ISP about you) back to the host at home: CloudFlare on a shoestring budget (there are many such providers and by tweaking DNS entries you can hop relatively quickly)

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                      This doesn’t help you comply with an AUP, just circumvent it.

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                        That’s often good enough. Using encryption makes it difficult for other agents to see any details about your internet traffic, and that includes your ISP enforcing its AUP on you (which they would be very prone to enforcing selectively, that is, only if they had some reason to think you specifically were a political problem for them).

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                      Which is when you end up towards running your own ISP, or other such nonsense.

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                    What bothers me with this article is use of the word “Chinese”. I also see articles with “Russians” and “Iranians”. However, I never see an article with “Americans” or “US” doing the hacking (as they certainly do, many Snowden’s leaks confirm it). It’s always either NSA or some agency, and I found that disingenuous, since the former style puts emphasis on the whole nation, while the later just hides behind abbreviations and agencies. Words are important for shaping our relationships, and this style just deepens the gap between various nations.

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                      The assumption is that most things are done by Americans, so when you describe something that they’ve done you need not include the ostensibly redundant “Americans”. (Yep, I’m American, and am unfortunately guilty of this from time to time. Apologies on behalf of myself and my parochial fellow citizens.)

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                        That’s only your assumption as an American, I personally don’t have that in my mind when I read articles and do roll my eyes when someone ends up being US-centric (lots of US podcasts are guilty of this).

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                          This was an American blogger, and my point was that many Americans (and a few others) do this. Hence my reference to “my parochial fellow citizens”.

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                            (lots of US podcasts are guilty of this)

                            Heh, most of them are expecting your culture (school,law enforcement,government..) to be the same as the american one. It’s annoying.

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                        This article was rather refreshing to read, as much as I love using linux, it’s nice to read both pros and cons of the platform while being able to recognise the good stuff of other ones.

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                          Might be an unpopular opinion but I’d pick nano over vim any day.

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                            It may be unpopular but it gets the job done. Personally I’d pick vim, but that’s decades of experience to lean on.

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                            That pretty well sums up why I just block it entirely. A favorite local web site moved from a normal wordpress comment system to disqus a few years back, and that bothered me enough to stop participating even though i’d enjoyed it for 6 or 7 years up to that point. Even in the beginning, disqus felt slimy. Since the acquisition by the surveillance tech firm: it’s a hard “No.”

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                              how do you go about blocking it?

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                                umatrix is the way to get back control on the Web

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                                  Umatrix was one of my favourite extensions.
                                  Too bad its repo has been “archived” now. Development has ceased.

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                                    Still works pretty darn well for me, so it’s still my favourite 😊

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                                  I use the EFF’s privacy badger add-on.

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                                    I blacklist it in my pihole install.

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                                  It feels these tags requests really go nowhere. Just get the same people to say the same. things.

                                  I guess some people prefer having stuff they don’t care in their feed instead of allowing a new tag.

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                                    Please add a add tag tag.

                                    Given the volume of tag addition and tag-specific posts Lobste.rs receives at this point, there should be a tag addition tag.

                                    Examples:

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                                      filter meta and move on

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                                        same applies to the OP, filter linux and move on

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                                          There are plenty of Nix posts that don’t have anything to do with Linux.

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                                        Discussion about tags already belongs to meta, no need to create a new tag for which a category already exists.

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                                        Good read, but also an advert for Hyvor Talk at the end. There are self hosted solutions you can use too. It’s all about that time/ease tradeoff. Spam is always a problem too.

                                        I just disable comments on my website. I migrated the old ones when I moved from wordpress to static pages, but never implemented a new system for newer posts. The discussion makes more sense on aggregation boards like Lobsters anyway.

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                                          Yeah, that shameless ad ruined the article for me.

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                                          This and many many other events in the last few months have shown everybody that we must get out of the silos (Google, WhatsApp, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Amazon, etc.). I’m glad that I’m using a Google-free Android (LineageOS), and even though it’s sometimes more work, freedom is never free, and there are many other great federated services around. You should also give an F-Droid-based Android like LineageOS a try.

                                          If I may give advice to those promoting alternative silos (Signal, Threema, Telegram, etc.): It won’t take long until legislators, companies, etc. double down on them as well. The only way out is federation and you should definitely give Matrix a try.

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                                            I can install any android app I want while also making use of the Play Store.

                                            For now there is no major functional difference for most users.

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                                              Being able to use the Play Store is a functional difference.

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                                            Another advertisement post…

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                                              …Not really? They’re just sharing a link to the documentation of their favorite language.

                                              Of course, if the only thing OP did was shill about Janet, that would be a different issue.

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                                                Exactly, just a link to a tool.

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                                                  Or rather, a link to a tool’s documentation. That does not make it an advertisement.

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                                                It’s a bit antisocial for you to comment on every post you consider suitable for the tools tag, adding nothing to the conversation.

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                                                  Tag is not there, so I add to the conversation that in my opinion this is just a link to a tool, not a conversation starter.

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                                                This is why whenever I’m writing anything complicated in bash, I open up my editor first. It saves me a lot of pain later. Sure you can recover from that pain, and the OPs solution was somewhat ingenious, but why not avoid that pain in the first place?

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                                                  Work smarter not harder :D

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                                                    Part of the problem with that is you’re not working on anything complicated in bash. At least it doesn’t start. So you just “hmm lets find all those files, right…soooo..no I don’t need this one, let’s pipe that out… Of wait what if I now extract the path I could directly…” And your flow is just arrow-up, tweak, enter. I can totally see the scenario from the article as viable. So you got it running, but will it hold? “Let’s just keep it in screen for two days for the next drop to check if it worked. If it does well we’ll write a proper daemon with all…” Then life comes and six months later you’re learning gdb :)

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                                                      My modus operandi is that but to stop it and copy it regardless before trying the long run.

                                                      Heck I’d even work directly on a sh file and run that instead. I’ve got burnt enough times that it’s just by default for me to make sh file first.

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                                                    Yeah exactly… I cannot remember long commands so I just type them into a text editor by default. Pretty much anything more than “rm foo” goes in a script I save somewhere.

                                                    I gave some examples in this post: Shell Scripts Are Executable Documentation. Although I have to admit it seems to serve better as documentation for myself than others, since there are a lot of people who don’t like reading shell scripts!

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                                                    Just use ungoogled chromium instead?

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                                                      API keys in question are for people who want Chrome Sync. If you are happy with ungoogled-chromium you are not affected.

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                                                      I’m really surprised about the reaction to this. As the article says, “you might use Chromium as a way of avoiding proprietary software, but if you use Chromium with features like synchronization, that objective has not been met.” The whole reason for using Chromium is to avoid Google’s proprietary add-ons, so removing them seems desirable to me. It ensures that every part of the code you run is actually stuff that you control - the essence of what free software used to be about.

                                                      If anything, the reason I don’t spend more time with Chromium is I’m not certain that it’s fully Google-free.

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                                                        I personally won’t be affected in the slightest by that change to Chromium, because even when I do use it, I don’t use any of the Google extras like bookmarks sync. I do worry about the knock-on effects from distributions dropping Chromium outright.

                                                        And I think a lot of folks have forgotten what free software is all about. Google et al have coopted it, under the banner of open source. Capitalism has a long history of co-opting countercultural movements.

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                                                          And I think a lot of folks have forgotten what free software is all about. Google et al have coopted it, under the banner of open source.

                                                          After all the AWS / Elastic happenings this week, can I just say it’s really refreshing to see someone properly draw this distinction.

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                                                          These were my thoughts exactly. I’d don’t use Firefox sync either; and I’d rather use a self-hosted bookmarking solution via browser addon anyway (although I don’t currently).

                                                          Like, how many Chromium users are actually using sync? I’d imagine anyone who does probably avoided logging into Google at all. But I guess, maybe not? Seems very odd.

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                                                            I’m guessing the impact is going to be for the users on systems Google doesn’t support that Chromium does, like OpenBSD.

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                                                              use ungoogled chromium and you’re good to go

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                                                              Another candidate for the tool tag.

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                                                                Yet another good example of product/tool advertisements on Lobste.rs (one of many by /u/skuzzymiglet to be honest).

                                                                Find the tag discussion here: https://lobste.rs/s/r6xtpo/tag_request_tool_product