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    Is this meant to be a transcript of the audio version of the book? Or is this someone’s paraphrasing of the book?

    I’m reading it trying to figure out why it’s in the third person and to whom it refers when saying “His main point ….” and “He concludes”. Is this a note-taker ascribing these comments to Graeber? Or is this Graeber referring to someone else?

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      He is quoting someone working in IT who was disgruntled with his work. A lot of the book actually consists of such testimony, rather than hard data. So yeah, this is some random bloke opinion, which found its way into a published book.

      That being said, I do believe this a point worth discussing. It kind of sound like Alex Papadimoulis idea that programming will always be boring in a job context http://thedailywtf.com/articles/Programming-Sucks!-Or-At-Least%2c-It-Ought-To-

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        I think the book and the article you shared is helping me realize some realities about the industry and the point that I wanted to discuss is exactly this: how to enjoy work. For me to enjoy my job is definitely not about the money and this can make things harder.

        By what Graeber says is not common to classify software development as a bullshit job, but there’s in fact a lot of software development bullshit going on. If it’s not because you’re duct taping software together, maybe is because you are producing today the bugs that you will fix tomorrow, maybe because the marketing is promising unnecessary features, maybe because clients are demanding unnecessary features or maybe because the business is not providing any value to society at all.

        Ignorance is a bliss: probably I would be very happy staying in my meaningless job for 10 years fixing the same bugs and earning my money, but as I believe what I’m doing is bullshit I don’t actually have another option, I need to keep looking for a meaningful job.

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          I haven’t read the book, but the author has stated that in order for a job to be a Bullshit Job:

          if the job, or even the whole industry, were to vanish, either it would make no difference to anyone, or the world might even be a slightly better place. [0]

          That doesn’t mean that a glue-code programming job isn’t crushingly boring or soul destroying, but it might mean that it doesn’t count as Bullshit.

          IME the worst kind of glue-code programming jobs tend to be gluing together non-free applications such as CRMs and email marketing or sales systems. At least if you’re working with free / open source software and it doesn’t meet your need in some way, your employer may pay you to fix it upstream.

          [0] https://www.economist.com/open-future/2018/06/29/bullshit-jobs-and-the-yoke-of-managerial-feudalism