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    I’m really excited for this. I can’t wait to read the finished version.

    Here’s a little anecdote. A few months ago I saw a comment by Bob (the author of this book) on Reddit, saying that he’s currently working on a book about interpreters. That got me super excited, because I was working on my own book about interpreters! Slightly intimidated that someone, who’s already written a great book, will be releasing a book about the same topic and maybe competing with me, I contacted Bob. I told him about my book and asked him if we’re essentially writing the same book. I was unsure about keeping on working on my book, now that there’s a pro tackling the same issues and covering the same niche. His reply couldn’t have been more motivating and encouraging, even if he tried. He essentially told me that I should keep working on my book, that there’s always room for more books and that he can’t wait to read it. I still think back to that email from time to time and credit it with giving me one of the many pushes needed to finish the book.

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      Have you thought about making print copies of your book? I’ve been looking for an excuse to play around with Go, but I heavily favor the dead tree version. Either way, congrats on finishing it!

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        Yes, I plan on releasing a print version in the next couple of months. Hopefully in February. I’ll send out a message on the mailing list, as soon as I know more. The major thing that’s holding me back is creating a print-proof cover image, that has the correct size, colors, resolution, margins, etc… That’s just not my area of expertise :)

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          Please do! I just bought a digital copy after forgetting for a while, but I personally would be way more excited to shell out cash for something I can hold.

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        Wow! Inspiring.

        I’m learning Go myself, and this book really excites me.

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        This reads a lot like “get off my lawn.”

        I’m unsure why he’s so upset about Swift’s optionals or Kotlin’s null shorthand. Once you grok the syntax/operators, they operate intuitively.

        In Swift:

        var l = s?.characters.count ?? 0

        In Kotlin (length is a property, not a method — c'mon Bob):

        var l = s?.length ?: 0

        Both are completely safe. After either of those statements you’re guaranteed to have l assigned an integer — and in either case it will be the correct amount of characters.

        Are either of these examples worse than this:

        size_t l = strlen(s);

        Maybe, maybe not. But if s is null we now have undefined behavior. Personally, I’ll take the type safety.

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          Maybe, maybe not. But if s is null we now have undefined behavior. Personally, I’ll take the type safety.

          To be fair, it could be a totally valid pointer with a null terminator missing down the road ending in a read to a protected page.

          The shitty thing is that Pascal and Fortran and Ada and other contemporaries of C already knew the right answer to this problem.

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            I agree with you. But, using Bob’s ridiculous argument, the developer should be in charge of checking for the terminator and adding it if need be — or trusting that it will always be there.

            Given that I have seen and written a lot of terrible pointer math, I remain unconvinced that testing for the terminator, possibly checking the remaining allocated memory, possibly calling realloc(), etc… before you get the length of a string if better than optional-syntax.

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          Still no official release schedule for WebKit — although it can be turned on in the developer preview of Safari Technology Preview.

          The WebKit Feature Status lists CSS Grid Layout Level 1 as in development.

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            The alternative take — yet equally rigorous — is to only apply margins in one direction. I can remember having my mind blown by a Harry Roberts article a few years ago on this very topic. He suggests using margin-bottom to push things down, and margin-left to push things across.

            Understanding margins and padding — along with a little * { box-sizing: border-box; } — is really what allowed me to wrap my mind around CSS.

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              that’s really interesting, thanks! as someone just learning CSS it’s great to be able to draw on best practices other people have worked out the hard way.

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              Related: Jason Scott’s take on this.

              He does a pretty good job summarizing the need for this:

              There are backups of the Internet Archive in other countries already; we’re not that bone stupid. But this would be a full, consistently, constantly maintained full backup in Canada, and one that would be interfaced with other worldwide stores. It’s a preparation for an eventuality that hopefully won’t come to pass.