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    Those are lovely!

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      My understanding is basically that:

      • Zig is targeting C
      • Rust is targeting C++
      • Julia is targeting…Matlab/Numpy?
      • Elixir is targeting Erlang

      At least for Zig, how’s the ecosystem shaping up?

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        Julia is targeting…Matlab/Numpy?

        Maybe R.

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          And Python!

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          Too early to tell wrt packages/libraries and that kind of thing, the package manager is planned:

          https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/943

          and the stdlib is intended to be fairly robust, so optimistically the soil will be good for a healthy ecosystem

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            Rust is more like an Ada replacement. It’s much harder to implement ie. a graph structure in Rust than in C++.

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            Weight lifting.

            I’ve been going to the gym semi regularly for a couple of years now but I started taking free weights more seriously recently and it’s been incredible. On a day I do heavy squats or deadlifts I feel amazing all day. I have a gym next door to my apartment that I can be in and out of in a half hour and the time spent pays for itself 100 times over. I’m planning on going on a strength training program next year to actively try to improve now that I’ve proven to myself I can go consistently.

            But seriously I wish I had known what a positive impact something so small can have before now.

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              Last year Brazil ignored daylight savings time:

              https://riotimesonline.com/brazil-news/miscellaneous/brazil-will-not-have-daylight-saving-time-for-second-consecutive-year/

              We had an email send out that was split into two job sets, a queuing job that used Postgres’ timezones db to load recipients due and a bunch of send out jobs that actually send the emails that have an application layer failsafe to make sure the email is actually due. We updated the application library before the Postgres instance and so that meant there was a situation one week where our one Brazilian customer would trigger the failsafe, resulting in a pretty confusing error. I was lucky I had a Brazilian engineer on my team who knew about the change!

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                This was exactly what I expected / wanted to see after reading the title.

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                  Do we know why he wants/needs this?

                  In my experience this looks like a functionality “wish list”, rather than something that anyone needs.

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                    What I mentioned on the article on my need was:

                    I want a database that allows me to create decentralized client-side applications that can sync data.

                    I’m not trying to solve anyone’s problem but my own, and more than a wish list it’s a hand picked collection of trade offs, like on how to deal with complexities of conflicts from uncoordinated writes.

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                      The sync protocol, and conflict handling, are IMHO a lot more interesting problems than the implementation of the local DB. Take a look at Dat and Scuttlebutt … neither is perfect, but they have interesting designs. (And they make good use of append-only data structures at the sharing/protocol level.)

                      For a lower level approach to syncing, the CouchDB replication protocol, at a very high level, is a decent design. We still use the same architecture in Couchbase Lite, although the details of the protocol are completely different because sending zillions of HTTP requests is too expensive.

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                        This is a flyby Comment so I apologize if this isn’t what you mean but that sounds a bit like https://realm.io/

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                          Thanks for confirming, but like snej says below this is a different set of problems, many of them unrelated to a database.

                          And not that cannot be done, but I seriously doubt anyone will work on it again in the short/mid term. This kind of problem was nicely solved by Lotus Notes and even if today the solution looks old, they created their own industry in distributed data/apps before internet become commonplace. Obviously it will not cover all the items in your checklist, but I don’t think they’re really needed (like immutability, that is only needed for some specific regulatory needs, or SQL compatibility).

                          Anyway, check Lotus Notes architecture for pointers.

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                          Nothing wrong with that though, is there?

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                          This is a great article. Thanks!

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                            thank you for reading it :)

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                            Brooks Davis has given a nice talk about what needs to be working to get a C hello world running. Note that his version assumes that the compiler is transforming the printf to puts. The printf function itself is a stress tests for a C compiler (clang could compile all of GNUstep except for GSFormat, which is basically printf for about a year before it could compile all of GNUstep). The locale support and variadic argument handling make this tricky in C and if you use the GNU extensions that allow you to register other format specifiers, it’s even more painful. In C++, the iostream goo is pretty horrific at the source level but doesn’t compile down to anything much worse than the C standard library. Java’s printf ends up invoking the class loader to load locale classes (Sun’s libc did something similar for locales), which ends up invoking pretty much every part of the JVM (file I/O, class loader, security policies, threads, JIT, GC), so is a surprisingly good test - if you can do printf, your JVM probably works.

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                              This looks really great and very much in the same spirit as the post, I will check it out soon, thanks!

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                              Moment.js is a much nicer experience in general when dealing with time and dates, and has many saner defaults and helper functions, although it’s ultimately backed by the native date object so it doesn’t paper over everything perfectly.

                              I’ve found https://js-joda.github.io/js-joda/ to be a really robust library for more complex date time stuff, it is especially easier to reason about and manipulate date times with time zone offsets. It’s a port of a java library and the api reflects this and is quite clunky, but it’s also using its own immutable representation instead of the native date.

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                                I’d recommend going with date-fns instead of Moment.js, for reasons like immutability, tree-shaking and performance.

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                                  I regretted going with moment.js for an angular app. It is HUGE and isn’t really easy to reduce size. I shouldn’t have to do some fancy build steps to do it.

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                                    That’s fair I use it on the backend mostly less of an issue there

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                                      Yeah, I wouldn’t mind that on the backend.

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                                  Thank you for bolstering my thesis 😸

                                  https://blog.jfo.click/fizzbuzz-is-a-jazz-standard/

                                  And well done, I appreciate novel takes!

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                                    I don’t spend a lot of time working with Javascript but I see these articles a lot and a common complaint is that yes, vanilla Javascript is powerful these days but it’s hard to maintain over larger codebases. So between the “frameworks/libraries” crowd and the “vanilla JS” crowd… is it actually possible or advisable to create a modern web application in “a little bit of plain Javascript”?

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                                      Depending on the app, I think it’s possible and advisable to create a modern web app with a little bit of plain JS. Basecamp have a whole thing about sprinkling JS on top of a solid HTML/CSS foundation, and their new email app HEY is supposedly built like that, with JS just taking over HTTP requests (links, form submissions) and applying them in-place. (I haven’t used the app, I’m just intuiting based on a Twitter thread that was doing the rounds). So basically, you’d use:

                                      • fetch() for the request
                                      • the History API to manipulate browser history
                                      • various DOM querying/manipulation methods to glue everything together

                                      Web Components are a set of specs that as a whole should further the goal — just drop in its JS file and get a new custom component with which you interact like any other DOM element — but unfortunately there are various roadblocks, bugs, and limitations that limit their impact.

                                      Closer to the SPA spectrum (one HTML rather than many), you definitely can have everyting in plain JS, but it won’t be a little for anything non-trivial and it will get unwieldy. I guess there are two parts to the “plain” story:

                                      • not transpiled, nor supported by any build process; this is a major spaghetti maker. Without proper support for modules, dependency management is finicky and you’re stuck with carefully putting everying in the right order in the global namespace. Support for native modules is gaining ground, but for near-universal support you can’t rely on them alone.

                                      • using the Web APIs directly, rather than relying on libraries and frameworks; definitely possible, after you develop a sense on how to organize things, but I think for larger teams it can become challenging because keeping it sane relies on devising, and following, your own rules and constraints.

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                                        My last from scratch project I built using Stimulus (https://stimulusjs.org/) from Basecamp. It’s just enough JS. That plus turbo links really made the app super simple but also SPA like.

                                        Highly recommended.

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                                        I think we could get a long way by injected a middle path between “completely plain, download from cdn url” and “dependency hellhole full on framework with multiple compilation steps” projects tbh, it’s just that the tooling and norms are pushing you towards the latter and the type of person attracted to the former is not necessarily going to have the knowledge or patience to leverage the standard tooling in a more minimalist way.

                                        It is possible to support stricter subsets of modern browser versions if you want to avoid a lot of back compat compilation steps with Babel or remove it entirely, it is possible to limit your dependencies to heavy well specced libraries like markdown or community standard utility libs like lodash, or at the very least be meticulous about what needs to go in build dependencies vs devDependencies. but it takes both domain knowledge and patience which don’t necessarily pay off in commercial work (until of course, they do, but by then you’ve got a massive SPA on your hands most likely and the issues have been compounded).

                                        And this problem is of course transitive and endemic to the community norms, your well selected libraries must themselves also have been authored with an eye towards similar standards, and the bigger your project gets the more likely it is you’ll have dependencies or transitive dependencies that carry some bloated or poorly maintained package dependencies of their own. I would love to see workflows that have the flexibility of build and bundle tooling with a minimalist approach to dependencies, but it’s just quite uncommon atm.

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                                          It’s possible. Main selling point of Javascript frameworks - it is a framework. With vanilla js your app can become a mess if you’re not really good at architecture (and I believe a few is good). On other hand you can use a framework which prescribes where to put stuff, and how to organise data flow. Lots of people complain about bloated web and blame frameworks. I believe without frameworks it will be worse.

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                                          Good list. I think another thing that’s really valuable is just adding a

                                          <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1">
                                          

                                          line to the header so that it doesn’t look horrible on mobile. Lots of people read on their phones, and it’s a one line way to make it look decent without thinking too hard!

                                          https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Mobile/Viewport_meta_tag

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                                            This link might be old hat, but for those who haven’t seen it, I found its argument on this topic to be pretty compelling:

                                            http://winestockwebdesign.com/Essays/Lisp_Curse.html

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                                              Clojure is a clear counterexample to this argument.

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                                                Clojure was only 2 years post 1.0 when this was written, and though it’s a counterexample to be sure, it’s only one in the long history of lisps in the past half dozen decades.

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                                                  Yet it seems to be the first lisp written with the expectation that you wouldn’t spend your time manipulating lists to get things done, but rather spend your time getting things done by manipulating lists. Just the perception of this novice.

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                                                  …And it would be very interesting to study more about Clojure’s community and tech ecosystem to try to come up with an argument as to why.

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                                                :eyeroll: not another monad tutorial

                                                j/k this paper is OG great :)

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                                                  I didn’t expect something like this from Cadey, always seemed like a go advocate. (See also the fun hello-world compilation test with big functions.) I’ll still bet we’ll see another post about all the things that are (still) hard to get working in rust, in contrast to more mature ecosystems :)

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                                                    Expect the unexpected. I’m hitting a point in my career (and understanding of programming) where I really think that more elaborate tools are better. I gotta do a lot more with Rust to get fully up to speed on it, but so far I think it is a lot more fair to trade slower development time for more correctness.

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                                                      I feel this, in fact I feel a take brewing but I don’t have it fully realized yet.

                                                      We have this eternal tension between “developer efficiency” which usually means, maybe simplicity however you may define it or intuitiveness (also subjective of course) and lack of friction to get up and running, and correctness which means robust software that handles many error cases and can self correct in some cases… but maybe this is a false dichotomy.

                                                      I am thinking of musical instruments, where in order to really express yourself it takes years of effort to become fluent technically. nobody bats an eye at this, but we all also appreciate that the easiest way to play liszt on the piano is to put a bluetooth speaker on the top of it and connect it to spotify. I’m joking, but not by much.

                                                      Anyway what I’m getting at is that the sharpest tools cut the most easily, which is axiomatic and we all laugh at the C jokes, but why shouldn’t it take a lot of effort to become fluent in them?

                                                      This isn’t really a well thought out take but maybe you see what I’m getting at.

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                                                        Be careful, nowadays your attitude that using tools properly might take years of practice is often dismissed as “gatekeeping”.

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                                                        Nice to hear and wasn’t meant offensive. My second point was more from my own experience. Though it really depends on the use case.

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                                                          It does, but correctness is probably a lot more important than developer efficiency. At least if you don’t want to wake people like me up at 3 AM :)

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                                                            I hold a slightly different belief: correctness enables developer efficiency. In all its forms (type systems, test suits, formal proofs, module invariants, &c.), it enables developers to stop worrying about different things. The more background cycles you can free up to work on the actual problem, the more productive your developers become.

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                                                              Types both direct me towards solutions AND check my solutions, at the SAME TIME.

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                                                                I think the phrase “slow is smooth and smooth is fast” is applicable here.

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                                                                  IMO Correctness costs early, and pays off later. Maintenance is always easier the more explicit everything is, because you’re always shuffling different contexts in and out of your meat cache, and when you can’t see information in the code you’re looking at, you have to constantly stop and go hunting for it.

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                                                                    Having coded rust for a while and used typical GC-based langs as well, I can totally see both sides. Especially when you also add the ecosystem into the mix. For some it’s faster to build stuff and also remove it fast again, the overhead to get it truly right isn’t worth it. I personally strive for the opposite but sometimes it’s really hard to sell this.

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                                                                      I spent a lot of time looking at green tests and flames in production, and decided there had to be a better way to catch problems before they set prod on fire. Now I’m all about the types.

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                                                                    Would be interesting to hear how this turns out. Most of my experience is from writing async stuff pre async/await, so I’m curious how it feels now. (Haven’t had the time to switch over my projects.)

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                                                                  Interesting view. How do you feel about tools like Ada Spark, Agda, and others that try even harder for correctness?

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                                                                    I have no opinion on them because I haven’t used them yet.

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                                                                    What kind of stuff are you looking to make with Rust?

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                                                                      So far I’m easing into what I know really well: chatbots and webapps. Eventually I hope to port Olin to Rust and use it as the backend for wasmcloud. I’ve started to work on something for this here, but right now it’s a very elaborate hello world :)

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                                                                        Here’s my first real public facing one: https://printerfacts.cetacean.club Here’s the source code: https://github.com/Xe/printerfacts

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                                                                          Very cool, looking forward to reading more about that in the future.

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                                                                    Tech tutorials on Medium are the worst. I don’t have an account so I always get the paywall, and it’s annoying enough to have to open an incognito window or another browser that I usually just keep looking for another answer.

                                                                    I get why non-tech writers would use something like Medium, but I wish more developers who write would just set up their own site and use Netlify. I think writing in markdown is a much more pleasant experience, too.

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                                                                      The lack of proper syntax highlighting is a real deal breaker for me as an author. You are left with screen grabs of your editor window or “HOSTED WITH HEART BY GITHUB” gists embeds everywhere, which are terribly painful to work with.

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                                                                        Agreed. I have no idea why anyone uses it for any writing that involves code.

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                                                                          Because it’s by far the easiest option. I don’t have to fart around with anything.

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                                                                            What about dev.to? Just as easy, no paywall.

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                                                                        Me too, I have to open medium links in a private tab. Not only to avoid the paywall but also to escape from the Google Accounts 3rd party cookie, which is impossible to block on Firefox for iOS.

                                                                        Now, on my phone, I don’t even click on Medium links anymore.

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                                                                          I don’t have an account so I always get the paywall, and it’s annoying enough to have to open an incognito window or another browser that I usually just keep looking for another answer.

                                                                          You might like the Cookie AutoDelete extension.

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                                                                          This is the complete list of domains where a user’s next submission could be blocked for having a majority of submissions from them. It’s a little close to being a worst-of list I don’t like to share queries of (especially where the submitters column is 1…) but I wanted to include it as a list of examples of content marketing.

                                                                          MariaDB [lobsters]> select domain, count(*) as submitted, count(distinct stories.user_id) as submitters, (select count(*) from stories s where s.domain_id = domains.id group by s.user_id order by 1 desc limit 1) as from_one_submitter from domains join stories on domains.id = stories.domain_id group by domain having count(*) > 5 and (from_one_submitter + 1) * 2 > count(*) order by 2 desc;
                                                                          +-------------------------------------+-----------+------------+--------------------+
                                                                          | domain                              | submitted | submitters | from_one_submitter |
                                                                          +-------------------------------------+-----------+------------+--------------------+
                                                                          | blogs.msdn.microsoft.com            |       206 |         36 |                132 |
                                                                          | jvns.ca                             |       159 |         36 |                 80 |
                                                                          | blog.netbsd.org                     |       126 |         13 |                 85 |
                                                                          | css-tricks.com                      |       116 |         15 |                 86 |
                                                                          | developer.telerik.com               |       113 |          5 |                101 |
                                                                          | codewithoutrules.com                |        93 |          2 |                 92 |
                                                                          | righto.com                          |        91 |         19 |                 64 |
                                                                          | flippinawesome.org                  |        90 |          2 |                 86 |
                                                                          | phoronix.com                        |        85 |         31 |                 44 |
                                                                          | oilshell.org                        |        83 |          4 |                 80 |
                                                                          | devblogs.microsoft.com              |        75 |         20 |                 42 |
                                                                          | spin.atomicobject.com               |        74 |         20 |                 39 |
                                                                          | blog.softwaremill.com               |        73 |          4 |                 55 |
                                                                          | lemire.me                           |        72 |         22 |                 45 |
                                                                          | ponyfoo.com                         |        68 |          5 |                 64 |
                                                                          | mail-index.netbsd.org               |        61 |          5 |                 44 |
                                                                          | citusdata.com                       |        60 |         10 |                 41 |
                                                                          | alistapart.com                      |        58 |         14 |                 45 |
                                                                          | hillelwayne.com                     |        58 |          3 |                 56 |
                                                                          | smashingmagazine.com                |        57 |         17 |                 33 |
                                                                          | dailydrip.com                       |        55 |          4 |                 39 |
                                                                          | vermaden.wordpress.com              |        55 |          2 |                 54 |
                                                                          | vuejsdevelopers.com                 |        52 |          1 |                 52 |
                                                                          | schneems.com                        |        50 |          6 |                 45 |
                                                                          | eev.ee                              |        49 |         17 |                 31 |
                                                                          | crate.io                            |        48 |          2 |                 47 |
                                                                          | driftingruby.com                    |        48 |          1 |                 48 |
                                                                          | bendyworks.com                      |        46 |          8 |                 25 |
                                                                          | petecorey.com                       |        44 |          2 |                 43 |
                                                                          | codepen.io                          |        42 |         14 |                 21 |
                                                                          | kev.inburke.com                     |        42 |          5 |                 38 |
                                                                          | imaginarycloud.com                  |        41 |          3 |                 39 |
                                                                          | zwischenzugs.com                    |        41 |          5 |                 36 |
                                                                          | intoli.com                          |        40 |          3 |                 28 |
                                                                          | pythonspeed.com                     |        40 |          1 |                 40 |
                                                                          | ma.ttias.be                         |        39 |          7 |                 30 |
                                                                          | pdfs.semanticscholar.org            |        39 |         11 |                 24 |
                                                                          | fsf.org                             |        38 |         15 |                 20 |
                                                                          | tboox.org                           |        38 |          1 |                 38 |
                                                                          | mattwarren.org                      |        37 |          5 |                 31 |
                                                                          | nanxiao.me                          |        37 |          2 |                 36 |
                                                                          | daringfireball.net                  |        36 |         11 |                 24 |
                                                                          | christophermeiklejohn.com           |        35 |          4 |                 32 |
                                                                          | dolphin-emu.org                     |        35 |          6 |                 24 |
                                                                          | filfre.net                          |        35 |          9 |                 25 |
                                                                          | 250bpm.com                          |        34 |         12 |                 22 |
                                                                          | blogs.gnome.org                     |        34 |         16 |                 17 |
                                                                          | christine.website                   |        34 |          2 |                 32 |
                                                                          | newrustacean.com                    |        34 |          1 |                 34 |
                                                                          | tech.marksblogg.com                 |        34 |          3 |                 32 |
                                                                          | flak.tedunangst.com                 |        33 |          6 |                 28 |
                                                                          | kevq.uk                             |        33 |          2 |                 32 |
                                                                          | os2museum.com                       |        33 |          7 |                 26 |
                                                                          | pixelstech.net                      |        33 |          2 |                 30 |
                                                                          | stackbuilders.com                   |        33 |          5 |                 17 |
                                                                          | blog.ikura.co                       |        32 |          2 |                 30 |
                                                                          | blog.logrocket.com                  |        32 |          6 |                 22 |
                                                                          | blog.runnable.com                   |        32 |          4 |                 22 |
                                                                          | craigkerstiens.com                  |        32 |          8 |                 22 |
                                                                          | deliberate-software.com             |        31 |          4 |                 27 |
                                                                          | promptworks.com                     |        31 |          4 |                 27 |
                                                                          | bravenewgeek.com                    |        30 |         10 |                 21 |
                                                                          | drmaciver.com                       |        30 |         14 |                 16 |
                                                                          | beza1e1.tuxen.de                    |        29 |          4 |                 26 |
                                                                          | bluishcoder.co.nz                   |        29 |          6 |                 24 |
                                                                          | neo4j.com                           |        29 |          6 |                 16 |
                                                                          | solipsys.co.uk                      |        29 |          5 |                 24 |
                                                                          | blinkingcaret.com                   |        28 |          2 |                 27 |
                                                                          | joezimjs.com                        |        28 |          1 |                 28 |
                                                                          | geeklan.co.uk                       |        27 |          1 |                 27 |
                                                                          | interrupt.memfault.com              |        27 |          2 |                 26 |
                                                                          | victorzhou.com                      |        27 |          2 |                 26 |
                                                                          | blog.mariusschulz.com               |        26 |          3 |                 21 |
                                                                          | davidgerard.co.uk                   |        26 |          1 |                 26 |
                                                                          | gigasquidsoftware.com               |        26 |          2 |                 21 |
                                                                          | gkbrk.com                           |        26 |          2 |                 25 |
                                                                          | jeremymorgan.com                    |        26 |          2 |                 25 |
                                                                          | saturnflyer.com                     |        26 |          2 |                 25 |
                                                                          | sicpers.info                        |        26 |          5 |                 21 |
                                                                          | blog.higg.im                        |        25 |          1 |                 25 |
                                                                          | pragtob.wordpress.com               |        25 |          1 |                 25 |
                                                                          | raganwald.com                       |        25 |         12 |                 13 |
                                                                          | telerik.com                         |        25 |          2 |                 21 |
                                                                          | hoelz.ro                            |        24 |          1 |                 24 |
                                                                          | metaredux.com                       |        24 |          3 |                 22 |
                                                                          | nedbatchelder.com                   |        24 |          7 |                 17 |
                                                                          | netbsd.org                          |        24 |          8 |                 13 |
                                                                          | osnews.com                          |        24 |          6 |                 18 |
                                                                          | raymii.org                          |        24 |          3 |                 22 |
                                                                          | verisimilitudes.net                 |        24 |          2 |                 23 |
                                                                          | about.sourcegraph.com               |        23 |          5 |                 15 |
                                                                          | arp242.net                          |        23 |          9 |                 14 |
                                                                          | blog.jle.im                         |        23 |          7 |                 13 |
                                                                          | blog.pragmaticengineer.com          |        23 |          4 |                 20 |
                                                                          | blog.sqreen.io                      |        23 |          3 |                 21 |
                                                                          | dragan.rocks                        |        23 |          3 |                 18 |
                                                                          | ecc-comp.blogspot.com               |        23 |          2 |                 22 |
                                                                          | parsonsmatt.org                     |        23 |          5 |                 19 |
                                                                          | bitemyapp.com                       |        22 |          3 |                 19 |
                                                                          | cambus.net                          |        22 |          3 |                 20 |
                                                                          | tedium.co                           |        22 |          8 |                 13 |
                                                                          | blog.takipi.com                     |        21 |          6 |                 10 |
                                                                          | brooker.co.za                       |        21 |          9 |                 11 |
                                                                          | carlchenet.com                      |        21 |          2 |                 20 |
                                                                          | beastie.pl                          |        20 |          1 |                 20 |
                                                                          | kanoki.org                          |        20 |          2 |                 19 |
                                                                          | lethain.com                         |        20 |          8 |                 11 |
                                                                          | modernweb.com                       |        20 |          2 |                 18 |
                                                                          | wilfred.me.uk                       |        20 |          4 |                 15 |
                                                                          | blog.ably.io                        |        19 |          4 |                  9 |
                                                                          | blog.codeship.com                   |        19 |          8 |                  9 |
                                                                          | blog.dantup.com                     |        19 |          1 |                 19 |
                                                                          | blog.floydhub.com                   |        19 |          6 |                 14 |
                                                                          | blog.graphqleditor.com              |        19 |          2 |                 13 |
                                                                          | blog.testdouble.com                 |        19 |          7 |                 10 |
                                                                          | ops.tips                            |        19 |          2 |                 17 |
                                                                          | people.eecs.berkeley.edu            |        19 |          9 |                  9 |
                                                                          | shape-of-code.coding-guidelines.com |        19 |          8 |                 12 |
                                                                          | sigusr2.net                         |        19 |          2 |                 18 |
                                                                          | sourcegraph.com                     |        19 |          6 |                 10 |
                                                                          | testdroid.com                       |        19 |          2 |                 17 |
                                                                          | wyeworks.com                        |        19 |          4 |                 12 |
                                                                          | blog.bitsrc.io                      |        18 |          6 |                 13 |
                                                                          | michaelochurch.wordpress.com        |        18 |         10 |                  9 |
                                                                          | monades.roperzh.com                 |        18 |          1 |                 18 |
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                                                                            I am 100% on board with mitigating content marketing (especially the egregious examples you provide) but yeah… I’m uneasy about this as an active member of the community whose own blog appears on this list because it’s one of the only places I submit links to. I visit lobste.rs almost every day and appreciate that so many of the links are relevant to my interests and especially that the front page is slow moving enough that I can actually keep up with it, but I don’t submit many stories other than my own posts, and this list makes me feel like that’s not a welcome pattern. I appreciate that it is pretty close to the behavior of a self promoter (though I guess it is in a way, but I am not selling anything, I just happen not to have much else to show). This leaves me with four options, if and when I start actively blogging more (which is something I would like to do soon, and also the reason I’m commenting):

                                                                            1. start submitting more posts I didn’t write to offset those that I did.
                                                                            2. only submit my own posts when they’re extra special by some metric or another
                                                                            3. get other people to submit my posts
                                                                            4. don’t submit my posts

                                                                            1 seems spammy af, 2 is a little weird but maybe the right answer (I would prefer just to submit everything and let the algorithm sort through them, where the algorithm is people’s eyes… tbh this is sometimes an HN strength, as you’re not guaranteed a front page land there and even if you get it, it fades quickly.)

                                                                            3 is just gross, and 4 bums me out.

                                                                            also it just makes me feel bad that I fall in this bucket I guess. Is “lurker who submits their own work from time to time” just doomed to be bucketed with “content marketing garbage spam”?

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                                                                              I’m sorry I made you feel bad, and I agree these are all bad choices. Your posts are certainly welcome, and folks up and down this thread are already brainstorming ways to fix it.

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                                                                                Maybe there should be a separate page on Lobsters for bloggers to submit an RSS/Atom feed! That way regularly blog content can be labeled separately, and vetted for quality of the blog itself, rather than the person/people submitting it to Lobsters.

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                                                                                  I certainly don’t want to have a whole RSS feed autoposted here, but I’m not saying your idea is bad - something along the line of a moderation queue for whole RSS feeds for stuff that >50% gets posted anyway is something to think about.

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                                                                                    I think jcs experimented with adding Planet-style aggregation years ago.

                                                                                    FWIW, this assumes 100% of the blog’s posts are in scope, and someone needs to clean up titles/tags, sometimes add context.

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                                                                                  So three questions:

                                                                                  1. What’s the average upvote score for articles from these sites? What about average upvote score for the articles submitted by the majority submitter?
                                                                                  2. How much content marketing stuff from dev.to, hackernoon, and medium is not on here?
                                                                                  3. How many of the majority submissions are from authors? Like I’d guess a lot of stuff from blogs.msdn.microsoft.com is from people who specifically are looking for interesting articles from there while everybody else isn’t.

                                                                                  (Disclaimer I’d really like to keep posting stuff from my site, but if the rest of the majority-things are by content marketers then it’s still worth it overall. Also, I think I’m well-known enough that other people would probably post stuff from my site anyway.)

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                                                                                    What’s the average upvote score for articles from these sites? What about average upvote score for the articles submitted by the majority submitter?

                                                                                    I think this is a key detail. I don’t self-submit often, but the 12 posts I have submitted over 2 years have generally been well received. I’d say the same goes for you. Well received self-submissions are something we don’t want to discourage. If someone is self-posting and the posts are not getting many votes then it seems more likely they should be subject to the post limit.

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                                                                                      I agree with corporate-operated blogs in this list, but I don’t understand the presence of private blogs such as jvns.ca or Daring Fireball. Those blogs usually have high-quality content (in my humble opinion) and I’ve never seen any form of content marketing on those websites (I could be wrong though).

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                                                                                        I think Daring Fireball is such an outlier, isn’t it like one the top 3 most-read sites with a 100% Apple focus anyway? I’m not using any Apple stuff, but I can’t help but getting the news anyway - and I personally don’t like reading it.. but I think it’s very often news-heavy and we don’t so many “New product by X” posts here, for a good reason.

                                                                                        Yes, Apple is a bad topic for me to comment, but Daring Fireball is not a personal blog anymore. He’s one of the major Apple-ecosystem influencers and pundits. This is 100% a business website by now.

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                                                                                        I also think this would be a useful component to include. My domain falls on the list, and I’m a bit sad to see my domain on the list. It’s technically content marketing, but I put a massive amount of effort into each post and the content is generally very well received both here and on Hacker News. I would understand the decision to block it, but I think that taking the average submission rating into account would still address the problem without eliminating content that is a good fit for the site. This also incentivizes people to only submit their best content.

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                                                                                          1. Averages are misleading because of site growth over time. (Related)
                                                                                          2. A significant amount. (Related)
                                                                                          3. Feels like most, but this a trickier query than I have spare brainpower to write. I worry that it would incentivize not checking that box because it’d be subtle and deniable.
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                                                                                          Is there anything we could do in terms of vetting a user? For example, as far as I am concerned, @andyc, @akkartik and @hwayne all submit rather high quality content from their own blogs, I’d rather not miss them.

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                                                                                            This just struck me when I was trying to submit my Nix rebuttal post.

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                                                                                              That’s a shame… I’ve always enjoyed your posts on christine.website and I think it would be a real loss if your website were to be blocked.

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                                                                                                Apparently it’s going to be fixed and this was just an extreme over-reaction. I’m still gonna post though :)

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                                                                                              15 of the top 30 in this list are sites that I probably actively visit when they’re linked from Lobste.rs and otherwise don’t visit. Excluding them may surface less popular content but it would also seem to reduce the visibility of content that I’ve come to trust and want to get from Lobste.rs. 7 of the next 20 are in that same bucket, so penalizing by this metric would inhibit submissions 44% of the top 50 domains considered content marketing.

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                                                                                                @pushcx, thanks for all the hard work on the site. I really appreciate this site a lot. Now, I’m a bit offended to be included in this list. I’m a web developer and volunteer for some FOSS communities, I have a low traffic blog and every now and then I share some of my blog posts here. Not all of them, just the ones I think have value for users here. I’m not selling anything on this site, and my blog posts are not related to anything I sell.

                                                                                                If this website is going to be hostile to blogs with such low traffic as mine with very few posts per month, about 500 users per month, then I think this site loses a ton of value. Not because they will be missing me but because the criteria that includes me and my site here, will also include lots of other minor bloggers. No one is posting my posts here because I don’t have a large number of readers, I’m probably faster to share content than some hypothetical reader.

                                                                                                Seriously, scanning this list I can see many blogs I actually subscribe and that provide me with good content, not upselling anything. I don’t think this metric is a good way to filter who you want to filter. What this metrics leads to is that only content from domains that are so popular that a ton of people repost content from them will end up in this site. This is not only an echo chamber that makes whatever is popular, more popular. But also gatekeeping small people who just want share their own story every now and then, and will prove that the blogosphere is dead since we can’t share blog posts.

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                                                                                                  As Lobster’s is my primary article discovery site, I’m a bit worried that this change will cause me to miss great articles because the author couldn’t post it, and they don’t have other avenues / connections to get it noticed (read: they suck at marketing, don’t have an RSS / atom feed, etc).

                                                                                                  I typically self submit (I’m on the list here) and sometimes it gets upvoted, sometimes it doesn’t. I kind of thought that was the purpose of votes, and flags, and such, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

                                                                                                  At least this change creates a new “market.” We can create a voting ring of sorts that keeps track of their submissions to certain domains and nominates someone to submit queued up links. The list of domains above is a good seed list of potential members, too….

                                                                                                  I should probably just go back to over subscribing to RSS / Atom

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                                                                                                    Could you run this query? I’m not entirely sure it’s correct, but it should sort by the percentage of single user submissions.

                                                                                                    select domain, count(*) as submitted, count(distinct stories.user_id) as submitters, (select count(*) from stories s where s.domain_id = domains.id group by s.user_id order by 1 desc limit 1) as from_one_submitter, (select count(*) from stories s where s.domain_id = domains.id group by s.user_id order by 1 desc limit 1)/count(*)*100 as submited_by_one_percentage from domains join stories on domains.id = stories.domain_id group by domain having count(*) > 5 and (from_one_submitter + 1) * 2 > count(*) order by 5 desc;
                                                                                                    
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                                                                                                      Looks correct to me. Results.

                                                                                                      (I put the original list in a comment because I saw it as central to the discussion, so I didn’t want it on free hosting even though I don’t have a convenient place to indefinitely host a small static file attached to Lobsters.)

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                                                                                                      I was a little worried to see my name On A List, and also a little flattered to know that my blog was getting so many posts from here. I had to look into who was doing all the posting, and, well, maybe you ought to watch out yourself ;)

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                                                                                                        Maybe copy query output to a gist or nopaste and link it?
                                                                                                        I found it hard to read due to line wrapping. :/

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                                                                                                          TIL I’m a content marketer, alongside such evil spammers as the Free Software Foundation and Hillel Wayne! And the tell was that I used federated blogging technology—my own article feed at my own domain, integrated into the fediverse via RSS—rather than high-quality centralised platforms like Facebook notes or Medium.

                                                                                                          Unfortunately, I’m really bad at content marketing. I tend to publish articles that explore ideas about software that I (and others, mercifully) find interesting, rather than SEO-first eyeball scrapers. I forgot to monetise with affiliate content, adverts, store links, or anything. Nobody even clicks the tip jar button on the site.

                                                                                                          I guess I need to find a community where us “Badly-marketed Low-value Output Generators”, or “BLOGgers”, can share, discover, and comment on each other’s posts without disrupting those people who are focused on consuming Medium-rate content. Preferably with a focus on programming, just because that is the niche vertical I have chosen to exploit with my rational-minded acquisitive process. Does anyone know where that community hangs out?

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                                                                                                            Wow… Okay. Did this site just become hostile to its users? My site is on the list.

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                                                                                                              No.

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                                                                                                              First of all, thanks for the good work. Now, since you invite:

                                                                                                              kibitzing about particulars

                                                                                                              and pointing out false positives. I expected @ahu’s site to be on there and it is[1], since one of his stories got moderated in a way I disagree with. (And I see other sites that I think are high-quality, but I’m happy to also see a lot of low-quality sites on the list.)

                                                                                                              Having said that, if you look at his submissions you’ll see that it is mostly geeky stuff so I would rather classify him as an author than a content marketeer. He is a geek and happens to be a pretty good writer. His last article on Huawei, 5G and Europe has been doing some good rounds on Twitter (I won’t link to it directly but search for “5G: The outsourced elephant in the room”).

                                                                                                              The only thing he perhaps went overboard with is the DoH centralization by Firefox on Cloudflare, which is an item we (PowerDNS) are pretty concerned about, but not for business reasons as implied by its proponents. Hell, we live in The Netherlands and couldn’t care less if we get fired or not since we got actual social security.

                                                                                                              [1] ds9a.nl, but I didn’t expect blog.powerdns.com to be there as well

                                                                                                              disclaimer: I’m a PowerDNS employee and ahu was my ‘boss’

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                                                                                                              I recently had this same experience, started on middleman in 2014 and then went to jekyll for a while and then when I had written enough that that was too slow, moved to hugo and recently decided to try writing my own, and I was really amazed at how easy it was to get functional parity to hugo (for the parts of it I was using anyway) in only 100 lines of javascript that performs completely fine even without any caching strategies and while doing everything sync. I got tired of having to fiddle with little things I don’t care about every time I updated (oh, they changed the name of the sitewide baseurl var again? alright.) Now I just have to worry about language level changes which are less of an issue and I’m more likely to be up to speed on them anyway, and I can add whatever features I want to my generator at my own speed. A+ personal project, a lot simpler than I would have feared and you get that “build your own lightsaber” effect too. I’d like to write about it a little bit, soon.

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                                                                                                                Why would anyone want to change the global base URL variable name?!

                                                                                                                I find it surprising that people break SSG version compatibility so often when it’s arguably the class of software easiest to keep compatible.

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                                                                                                                  yeah, but I think it absolutely depends if you can find the right libraries to do the heavy lifting for you. In my case that’s the (quite sophisticated) templating language, I did not plan to write that on my own. Markdown parsers are a lot easier to come by and I suppose I could’ve done the TOML parser for my very limited use case relatively quickly.

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                                                                                                                    Oh yeah, of course. Markdown is relatively stable and (in the case of common mark) spec’d, with high quality libs that I don’t think will change that quickly either.

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                                                                                                                  I coincidentally set this up last week and hooboy it’s been fantastic. I finally might buy a smart tv now knowing I have an easy way to exert granular control over its mothership beams… (by which I mean any tv at all as it seems impossible to get a modern tv that’s not “smart” and yes I know I can just not use those bits but I want to use some of it sometimes…)

                                                                                                                  Highly recommend the pi hole though, really worth the (pretty minimal, after procuring the raspberry pi ) effort.

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                                                                                                                    Hardware/embedded systems (tbd what that means exactly)… I have been consistently reminded that probably the thing I could learn about that would help me the most in my work is databases and sql (probably postgresql) properly as opposed to just the random bits of it I pick up.