Threads for knewter

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    This website it terribly to use on a mobile device. I wish more sites were plain text…

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      To be fair, this website is also terrible on desktop.

      Redacted since it’s unneedly harsh

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        I’m a co-founder of SmoothTerminal. Sorry about the performance issues - we just launched a UX/UI refresh and none of us noticed the performance issues until yesterday. Are you on Safari? That’s the only place we’ve been able to reproduce the slow scrolling, and there’s some particularly weird behaviour sometimes (safari web inspector claims an element is where it should be, but it’s painted somewhere else entirely). We’re working on it, and I’m embarrassed that it’s bad. Mea culpa.

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          I shouldn’t have been this harsh. Sometime I forget about the human on the other side of the screen. I’m the one embarrassed, sorry about that.

          I have this issue at its worst on Chrome on OSX. Using it on Firefox/Linux on my desktop is less worse, but scrolling still feel a bit tampered with.

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            This is one of the reasons that I like, we all occasionally make poorly thought out or harsh comments, but this is one of the places on the internet where people apologize because they think about the person on the other side. Thanks for making the world decent!

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            Honestly it’s pretty rough to use on desktop as well. The floating ToC blocks the text in its default, expanded position, and on wide monitors the layout is much wider than seems reasonable. The “reader” view in firefox cleans it up nicely – it just gives raw text with a reasonable column width, which is all anyone wants anyway.

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              Killing TOC, thanks

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                Thanks for being responsive!

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                  No problem. We saw some performance gains from that and it was definitely broken in safari, but the real performance gains came from the deploy we just performed - we stopped using background-attachment: fix. That was causing extreme redraw churn. Both needed to be done though really.

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              FWIW, it is pretty difficult to read with JavaScript disabled (using uMatrix). Perhaps you’re applying styles in JavaScript?

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                This is what I was thinking too. I just gave up and opted for Reader View in Firefox.

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                  We are, and it’s in support of our themes. We should make sure to ship the default theme by default, but my guess is it’s flipped in js and has no good default fallback. Thanks.

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                    We were accidentally shipping all styles over js. We’re prepping a PR that properly sends the stylesheet now. That’s embarrassing.

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                      Stuff happens! Still displays poorly in Firefox with uMatrix, but maybe you’re still working on the PR.

                      It probably looks fine in e.g. elinks or eww.

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                    Mobile Firefox here, I could see the first paragraph but only the background Blue after that, until I switched to Reader View

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                      What mobile OS? is that happening still? I just tried it on mobile firefox on android and it worked fine, but we also just deployed a bunch of tweaks based on the righteous, justified shellacking we got for performance yesterday.

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                        It works much better now, thanks!

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                Thanks goodness for Reader View.

                My complaint isn’t the performance, but is the layout and the floating TOC which gets in the way of reading.

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                  Killing TOC, thanks

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                  Each week we try to gather up the most important news from the week. I’m sure we miss stuff still but we’ve got a process we’re happy with now and it should only get better from here. Definitely interested in any feedback you have, either on how badly we suck or ideas for growing the newsletter :)

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                    Pretty sure 22$ a month is more than my nytimes+economist subscriptions combined, so I’d expect more of a deep dive “firehose” than an entry level “drip”.

                    Sorry if that’s harsh. Good luck!

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                      I think NYTimes costs $16/month? So if you have a way to get the economist at $6/month I’d love to know

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                        Nytimes digital is $7.50 every 4 weeks, economist is ~$150 a year so $12.5 brings us to $20 even. I actually just subscribed to Nautilus for $3.25/mo so I am now at $23.25 for 3 publications.

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                        Thanks for the response! The news we provide weekly can always be found on our blog for free. It has been free all 16 weeks :) We spend a lot of time narrowing down the list to save developers time. We try to pick news that we think is extremely valuable. We have a new free video M-F on our homepage. The subscription service is just to have access to all of our material.

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                          Some feedback.

                          The digest seems to cover only things that were high on HN and other news sites, targeted mostly at web developers (the amount of javascript content is thwarting), topics that interest me barely get a single sentence notice:

                          OpenBSD gets a new unique kernel on each reboot, guess who’s the cool kid now

                          and at that off the bleeping computer article, not the mailing list threads and undeadly that covered the topic weeks before.

                          The video being the main content feels like a waste of time, while I appreciate the time it takes to make a summary a textual index with an ability to jump to a video summary would be much better.

                          I went through some of your older ones like:

                          mostly because I saw my OpenBSD daily blog post covered there. The coverage was:

                          OpenBSD Daily

                          literally just reading the post title.

                          In summary. If I was to pay for a service to digest news for me I would expect at least:

                          • being able to pick my areas of interest
                          • additional info that a quick scan of the title and a few paragraphs won’t give me

                          With the ones I saw while checking now, I would discard 2/3rds of every one of them as purely web development related or blog posts that are just popular. The remaining 1/3rd that I actually find interesting get’s very shallow coverage that gives me no context on why I want to dive deeper except ‘This is OpenBSD, this is C, this is blah’.

                          The level of coverage feels like noting down the most popular topics for a week and selecting a subset to read titles of for 3 minutes. Sorry if this sounds harsh, I don’t know how much work actually goes on behind this and if there’s more content for paid subscribers - just giving feedback on what was available on the blog.

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                      I just got Erlang and Android interop working in preparation for my ErlangFactorySF talk.


                      Wasn’t sure I’d be able to do distribution from android, but turned out not to be so bad. Very proud of figuring it out tbh…