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    While I agree with the sentiment that employees deserve fair compensation for their labor, the idea that a company would change its ownership structure just so they can install someone’s open-source library is ridiculous.

    Let’s walk through the steps:

    1. I start a company, and through 5-10 years of luck and struggle it somehow becomes profitable.
    2. Someone installs a javascript utility library that uses this license.
    3. Now all of the partners that have been there since the beginning (and made countless personal sacrifices) need to give equal equity and voting rights to the Q/A kid that started last week.

    That would be destructive to the company and unfair to the existing partners.

    Also the idea that large companies don’t contribute ‘free labor’ back to these projects is misguided.

    The ACSL is right for you if you want your code to empower students, artists, hobbyists, collectives, cooperatives and nonprofits to survive under capitalism while not contributing free labor to corporations.

    I have several popular open-source libraries, and I get more contributions from people that work at ‘corporations’ than I get from ‘students, artists, hobbyists, collectives, cooperatives and nonprofits’. If I had to pay for that labor at cost, it would be worth well over $100k.

    Honestly whenever I see contributions from employees of large corporations, it gives me hope that the project will survive without my constant involvement.

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      While I agree with the sentiment that employees deserve fair compensation for their labor, the idea that a company would change its ownership structure just so they can install someone’s open-source library is ridiculous.

      I don’t think that’s the idea here; rather, as with the way many people use the AGPL, the point is to stop large companies from using the software.

      I have several popular open-source libraries, and I get more contributions from people that work at ‘corporations’ than I get from ‘students, artists, hobbyists, collectives, cooperatives and nonprofits’. If I had to pay for that labor at cost, it would be worth well over $100k.

      If you value that more than preventing the use of your software by capitalist entities, then this license is not for you, and I think that’s okay. It can exist for people who want it, or even for particular projects that want it, without needing to be everything to everyone.

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        What is the actual worst case scenario that could result from this patent clause?

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          For big companies its:

          • Facebook violates a patent you hold and you’re like “dude, that’s not OK” and you go to litigation.
          • Facebook’s patent grant retaliation kicks in. It revokes the grant to everything Facebook gave you under BSD+Patents anywhere in the company.
          • You are now at risk of having to pull products that are completely unrelated because of the patent infringement.

          Apache 2’s patent termination is only in regards to entering litigation about that particular piece of software. So if you build three apps using a library, but there’s a patent battle over something in software A, software B and C still have the patent grants.