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    Very noble, except nobody on his right mind wants an Intel-based laptop anyway. Current AMD offerings are much better.

    For the open-everything crowd, it would be far much more appealing if they made a POWER or RISC-V laptop.

    I’m not sure who their target customer is.

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      AMD has a ME-like thing (PSP) that no one has managed to neuter. So you’re wrong, people who want an x86 laptop are better off with intel if they want a ‘more open’ system, but intel is still not ideal.

      Making a POWEr or RISC-V laptop is a huge amount of effort, and many existing applications won’t run on it without even more work.

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        AMD has a ME-like thing (PSP) that no one has managed to neuter. So you’re wrong, people who want an x86 laptop are better off with intel if they want a ‘more open’ system, but intel is still not ideal.

        Intel still isn’t open. And it has non-ideal performance and a history of vulnerabilities.

        Making a POWEr or RISC-V laptop is a huge amount of effort

        Yes it’s effort, and yes that’s why they won’t bother. It’s easier to do almost the same thing everybody is doing, and they can sell that anyway.

        and many existing applications won’t run on it without even more work.

        Not an issue unless you run mainly proprietary software.

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          Intel still isn’t open. And it has non-ideal performance and a history of vulnerabilities.

          Uh, no one has made anything RISC-V that performs all that well, from what I understand. And even if there was one, far, far fewer people are willing to drop a serious amount of money on it. If you really want that, there are companies selling it, so go put your money where your mouth is.

          I never claimed intel platforms were fully open, just that they’re more open (just barely, by neutering the ME) than your recommendation to use amd… which has a chip running a blob that you cannot disable without bricking your system.

          Yes it’s effort, and yes that’s why they won’t bother. It’s easier to do almost the same thing everybody is doing, and they can sell that anyway.

          They haven’t completely solved the problem (and, IMHO, don’t give any illusion that they have?), but I think their efforts to bring a system with a deblobbed system with neutered ME and coreboot to the masses is still helpful. Purism even makes a choice to use a wifi chip that doesn’t require blobs to run.

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            AMD allows disabling the PSP in the UEFI settings.

            I’ve no idea, unfortunately, if any research has been done as to how the setting works and how effective it is.

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        I would certainly like a POWER9 laptop, but power consumption is not its strong suit.

        POWER10 is claimed to have lower power usage, but Raptor is reportedly unhappy with IBM, and this suggests the firmware stack has not been fully released. That’s disappointing, if true.